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Tiruvalye t1_j5sybbf wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
We can use other processes to clean the nuclear waste now.
FrostyAcanthocephala t1_j5sy41g wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Would be cheaper to reprocess it like the industry said they would.
Interesting-Ad7020 t1_j5sxykz wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Uranium is one of the most heavy elements. Also if you place it in earth orbit it will be part of space trash that can hit other objects. Next problem is if you want to send it into the sun. For this you will need a lot of delta v.
alicelric t1_j5sxyae wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
You haven't seen that Futurama episode haven't you
quartertopi t1_j5sxncw wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Or gets targeted by an attack. Dirty bomb for free
[deleted] t1_j5sxeyb wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
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ToriYamazaki t1_j5sx94c wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Because it's insanely expensive to do so.
Because it tends to get caught by gravity and come crashing back to earth.
Because rockets don't always launch perfectly.
DefenestrationPraha t1_j5sx7s5 wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
"Reliable" in nuclear technology means something very different from "reliable" in space, not least because the failure modes are different.
If a Falcon Heavy with ordinary cargo fails, a few fish will die on impact, but otherwise the damage to the ocean and the atmosphere is not that great and lasting.
"Seeding around" tons of nuclear waste into the atmosphere and into the ocean water would be a major disaster. This stuff will circulate for decades or even thousands of years, depending on its half-time.
ToriYamazaki t1_j5sx3x4 wrote
Reply to comment by FrankieFiveAngels in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Not true. Once it's in space... what then? Guess what? It floats around, gets caught by gravity and falls back to earth.
Robertokavali t1_j5sx0re wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Because it’s too expensive. Look up Kurzgesagt on YouTube
MiddleAgedGrump t1_j5swzl4 wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
I say we just tip it all into active volcanoes.
Mountain_Fig_9253 t1_j5sws34 wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
The main reason is that the risk of space flight doesn’t justify the marginal (if any) benefit.
According to Wikipedia there was 47,000 tons of high level radioactive waste in 2002. I’m too lazy to look up more up to date numbers. If we launched that all into space on F9 heavy rockets it would take 1,807 launches if all the mass was used for waste. That’s using 26 tons capacity to GTO. We would probably want to put the waste in a really strong container that will probably take up 25-50% of the mass needed so now we are up to about 3000 launches.
Since no rocket system is perfect we have to expect some failures. Let’s assume SpaceX gets a 99.9% reliability schedule that means we blow up 3 rockets on launch, spreading 50-75 TONS of high level radioactive waste all over the planet.
Compare that to just letting it sit there and not bother anyone. It’s far better to spend a fraction of the money of 3000 launches on building insanely strong storage areas and just leaving it alone.
[deleted] t1_j5swok6 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
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SonicHedgePig t1_j5swod2 wrote
Reply to comment by Aggravating_Teach_27 in How many years do you think we have until space travel? Something like cowboy bebop by Aware_Ad2047
Weird how you thought of this yesterday and this just comes up on the news feed - https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/techandscience/nasa-to-test-nuclear-rockets-that-could-fly-astronauts-to-mars-in-record-time/ar-AA16H22U?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=83e7df7f51744470b45e8dfe0af046a9
sadcatgirlsclub t1_j5swnxi wrote
Reply to comment by SteeleDuke in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Slingshot would be too weak, you'd need something stronger like a trebuchet.
tripy75 t1_j5swnrw wrote
Reply to comment by dinomiah in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
kurzgesagt is like xkcd. they cover a lot of things
MysticDaedra t1_j5swbjp wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
We already don't store nuclear waste underground. Modern radioactive waste containers are extremely safe and durable.
Good-Spring2019 t1_j5sw7y6 wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Falcon heavy can only carry half of what the Saturn V could. That’s why.
Utterlybored t1_j5sw73a wrote
Reply to comment by PhilGibbs7777 in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Other than being expensive and dangerous, it’s a great idea, though.
[deleted] t1_j5sw6m7 wrote
Reply to comment by SteeleDuke in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
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FrankieFiveAngels t1_j5sw65t wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
As everyone else is mentioning, rockets tend to explode when they don't work correctly, which is more often than you think.
A space elevator would be ideal to expel waste (or anything) off the planet safely.
dropbear23 t1_j5sw61j wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
Not only that, but having nuclear waste floating around in earth's orbit could be pretty shit. Because getting it out of earth's orbit would be horrendously expensive.
dinomiah t1_j5sw2nx wrote
Reply to comment by tripy75 in Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
I came into this thread thinking "I'm pretty sure I saw a Kurzgesagt video about exactly this."
Pretty-Ad-8860 t1_j5sye3v wrote
Reply to Hey, can someone explain to me why we are not stending nuclear waste into space having a reliable rocket that can carry a decent amounts of cargo? I'm thinking about Falcon Heavy. One start a year would mean that US doesn't need to store anymore waste underground. by William0fBaskerville
I'm sorry but why should we dump this planet's waste somewhere else? I'm ok shooting it into the Sun, but just sending it out in a random direction...