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Kay_0zz t1_j64q31q wrote
If you change a q-bit its pair also changes instantly no matter where it is in the universe. How does it know? That's information being exchanged faster than the speed of light. Particle physics and quantum mechanics have rules we don't know or understand yet.
dantodd t1_j64pyzi wrote
What an awesome and insightful question.
Yes, and no.
Let's make a few assumptions. First. Let's assume that both planets are aware of each other and have tech's assumed at each other. Second let's assume that the communication is instantaneous to take out the math issues. Third, only one planet can transmit the messages but the other can recurve them. Finally, assume I'm a random stranger on the Internet and I don't have a PhD in physics.
Both planets are looking at each other and they are seeing photons that bounced off the other planet 4 years in the past. (i.e. they are 4 light years apart) If one planet transmits this instantaneous signal the planet that received the signal will see it as coming from the future because it was transmitted 4 years before the images they are recording on their telescope. So, if they could see the transmitter being built they might see it still under construction for four years after they get the first transmissions.
To the planet transmitting the signal they would get feedback via light speed communications or actual light images in only 4 years rather than the anticipated 8 with communications limited by the speed of light. I think this would look like time dilation rather than time travel to the planet transmitting.
It is not dissimilar to shooting something at long range. If you are the shooter you hear the gun fire and then see the target get hit. If you are standing near the target you see the target react to getting hit long before you hear the gun shot. So, which order you perceive things happening depends on where you are. Of course we are used to the difference in asked between sounds and light so it seems natural but it takes a bit more to shift ourc thinking you you're question
LincolnsVengeance t1_j64pe2o wrote
Reply to comment by Varsect in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
I didn't realize you were referring to that kind of scale. I can't imagine it would mean much seeing as the outer edges of the universe are already expanding away from us faster than light
ReallStrangeBeef t1_j64pbt9 wrote
Reply to comment by shelbydiamondstar in Rare December bloom in Anza Borrego makes for a wonderful foreground to frame Orion with! (California) by shelbydiamondstar
Been searching around for info on this as I'm heading there this weekend. I'll bring an update back if I see much!
Varsect t1_j64ox1f wrote
Reply to comment by LincolnsVengeance in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
I mean like, that's localized to the Milky Way and the local group. For extra local group travel, it'd basically be impossible.
Galapgosian t1_j64ou5l wrote
Information transfer is bound by the speed of light. There is no theoretical possibility of going faster. Your experience of a light beam is going to be the same regardless of it’s speed. You will see it when it strikes your eye.
Time travel can only occur relativistically. The faster a mass moves, the slower time elapses for it.
Deep_BrownEyes t1_j64oldi wrote
Reply to comment by VulpesIncendium in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
Wouldn't it appear to travel backwards? The signal appears out of nowhere as it is received and slowly traces backwards to its origin
JustAPerspective t1_j64obtr wrote
Reply to comment by DidaskolosHermeticon in Earth's inner core may be slowing down, but “Nothing cataclysmic is happening,” says Hrvoje Tkalcic, a geophysicist at Australian National University. “The inner core is now more in sync with the rest of the planet than a decade ago when it was spinning a bit faster.” by clayt6
It's easy to be confident when there's limited information available.
While what you're saying is highly probable based on our current understanding, these two phenomena may be related - it is not absolute. Assumption precludes, and oft forgets, discovery.
graboidian OP t1_j64o8fl wrote
Reply to comment by Arnold729 in In Memory of "Seven" - A poem for the seven astronauts who perished on January 28, 1986 by graboidian
> Ever see a ufo?
Well, I have looked up in the sky and saw an aircraft that I couldn't identify, so,....Yea, I've seen a UFO.
CrimsonWolfSage t1_j64o7xo wrote
Reply to If you could instantaneously place a space telescope at any desired distance (LYs), from any planet/galaxy etc., where would it be and what would you be documenting? And for what purpose? by kennyarsen
It would be interesting to arbitrarily place it at the end of the known universe, and document what's seen from there. Would it mirror our existing views, or maybe provide an unimaginably different perspective?
LincolnsVengeance t1_j64o6u3 wrote
Reply to comment by Varsect in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
You could in theory travel to other stars in our star cluster and explore or even live there if you could find a habitable enough planet. That's so far in the future that it really has no practical application other than as an aspiration and inspiration for those doing the work required to eventual get there. There is the other problem of even at twice the speed of light it would still take 2 years to reach Alpha Centauri.
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Reply to comment by a4mula in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
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a4mula t1_j64noee wrote
Reply to comment by KamikazeArchon in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
>Derive - base a concept on a logical extension or modification of (another concept).
In order to derive you must alter the original data. It must change. That is the fundamental aspect of information.
It can change. If it cannot change, it's just data. Not information.
Varsect t1_j64njgc wrote
Reply to comment by LincolnsVengeance in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
Ok, you've won
>The hypothesis exists therefore there are scientists who at least believe in the possibility that FTL travel is possible
I've always wondered how FTL would help outside of the local group with an expanding universe.
Mad_Dizzle t1_j64n8sp wrote
Reply to comment by it_follows in NASA's Annual Day of Remembrance today, Jan. 26, honors the astronauts who died during the Apollo 1 fire and the Challenger and Columbia space shuttle disasters. by clayt6
The point is that a lot of learning is done in hindsight. NASA leadership wouldn't make the same mistake today, and neither would I now, but what's done is done. We honor the fallen and hope to improve from their sacrifice.
KamikazeArchon t1_j64n8jo wrote
Reply to comment by a4mula in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
Change is not a requirement of that. Are you under the impression that "event" means "change"?
rodface t1_j64n7lk wrote
Reply to comment by wifespissed in NASA's Annual Day of Remembrance today, Jan. 26, honors the astronauts who died during the Apollo 1 fire and the Challenger and Columbia space shuttle disasters. by clayt6
Perhaps it has something to do with how much physically closer Challenger was, and the images that were produced because of it. The Challenger vapor cloud is one of those images that is up close and visceral. Columbia's disintegration, not as much.
KamikazeArchon t1_j64n3gf wrote
Reply to comment by Plus_Cartoonist_3060 in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
It would be if it were true. It's not. That's not what entanglement means. If you change the spin of one, nothing will happen to the other. Changing spin breaks entanglement.
boombotser t1_j64n2q1 wrote
Reply to comment by space-ModTeam in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
You would remove it right when I open the thread
a4mula t1_j64n039 wrote
Reply to comment by KamikazeArchon in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
>In information theory, the information content, self-information, surprisal, or Shannon information is a basic quantity derived from the probability of a particular event occurring from a random variable.
That's the definition. Want me to show you where the change is a required part of it?
KamikazeArchon t1_j64ms9j wrote
Reply to comment by a4mula in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
That is not how it's defined in information theory.
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Plus_Cartoonist_3060 t1_j64mmjq wrote
Reply to comment by KamikazeArchon in Sending a signal faster than light is time travel? by KingOfTNT10
If you have two atoms in quantum entanglement, and you change the spin of one atom, the other atom will change it's spin to be opposite. Isn't this the essence of transmitting information?
ktdotnova t1_j64q69e wrote
Reply to NASA's Annual Day of Remembrance today, Jan. 26, honors the astronauts who died during the Apollo 1 fire and the Challenger and Columbia space shuttle disasters. by clayt6
Coincidentally Kobe and others also passed on the Jan. 26 in a tragic accident involving air travel. RIP.