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ye_olde_astronaut OP t1_j6nglnq wrote

This is certainly true for smaller red dwarf stars, however there are other predictions that claim that it is not as big a problem as the more dire predictions would lead us to believe (never mind that there is a growing database of exoplanets orbiting red dwarfs that have low densities indicating that they have held onto their atmospheres and volatiles). More data is needed... which is why the linked paper (and other sources) refer to potential habitability.

That being said, TOI-700 is a larger and less active M2.5V red dwarf that would not have the same level of activity as smaller red dwarfs. Again, TOI-700e is potentially habitable and is a perfect target for future studies about the limits of planetary habitability.

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League-Weird t1_j6ne7fa wrote

Imagine deciding that anything is better than the persecution or life you had in civilization and getting on a boat where you had a 25% chance of dying from a number of issues. Then you get to land and have to have the knowledge needed to thrive either by yourself or with a group of strangers. Not sure how many survived the mayflower voyages.

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EricFromOuterSpace OP t1_j6nc9hk wrote

Gotcha — yea you are probably right that space weather is chaotic and something is happening all the time, but this one seems to have been particularly intense:

A series of intense solar flares exploded intermittently for more than a week. A solar flare is an outburst of charged particles from the Sun’s turbulent surface. There are five classes: A, B, C, M, and X, ranging in size from the smallest to the most dangerous. The intense solar storm of 1972, which was an X-class flare, originated from a sunspot named MR 11976.

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wanderlustcub t1_j6nbmi5 wrote

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H-K_47 t1_j6n9h9w wrote

> Artemis’ Orion has been designed with an array of features to protect both humans and hardware in a worst-case scenario. A stowage bag or other material found onboard might be used to construct a temporary radiation shelter inside the spacecraft.

> As per NASA, the crew might need to stay in this storm shelter for at least a day. Extreme space weather would not prevent the crew from carrying out "critical mission activities," though, thanks to the protective radiation vests.

That's good. Hope it's enough.

> During periods of severe solar activity, astronauts might potentially construct a shielded habitat using local resources, such as lunar soil, dirt, and rocks. For instance, walls about one meter thick can be built by 3D printing building blocks from lunar dust (regolith).

They'll need to pack a fair amount of equipment and spend some time setting this up, but it would be worthwhile.

The initial HLS lander should also be big enough to fit in some kind of hardy radiation protection room as well. Astronauts on a moonwalk should have enough warning time to return to the lander and take shelter.

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wgp3 t1_j6n80v9 wrote

Work has already started on their designs but im not sure how far along that work is. The goal as of now is having the samples back by like 2033 or so. Perseverance, the current rover, has an undetermined amount of life left. Some rovers have made it 15 years. Other rovers made it about 5. But Curiosity is still going (11 years now I believe) and Perseverance is basically the same design but upgraded so hopefully should get another 10 years out of her easily.

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then00bgm t1_j6n4wkj wrote

A human team sent would need massive amounts of food and water, enough for the whole trip plus extra so if anything goes wrong. They’ll need first aid supplies and a pharmacy worth of medicine for any ailments they might develop during the mission. If there are any female crew members, they’ll need multiple years worth of pads and tampons.

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ryan__fm t1_j6n3faf wrote

There are certainly humans who would sign up to fly to Mars, even if there was no return.

Besides the fact they didn't have robots as an alternative, there are huge financial differences... a boat doesn't cost billions of dollars, and there was a potentially massive upside to discovering a new trade route or undiscovered land that could be conquered and civilized/pillaged. We already know enough about Mars to know there's probably not a lot there, it'd be like me taking a boat to Antarctica knowing there was no way to get home.

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