Not farfetched at all, just it isn't happening at present. If they start hiring space propulsion experts tomorrow then it wouldn't shock me, but they don't have any today.

The RR microreactor will power someone else's nuclear propulsion tech.

It's sounds like you're still kind of struggling to understand the concept WRT nuclear power. Again, i don't think you'll accept my opinion on the matter so I suggest you really try to understand how they work in the nuclear power cost equation and then we can have a more fruitful discussion on the matter.

Now you wanna talk.

How about the cost of the healthcare of all the children who get asthma? What about compensation for their years of lost labor? Coal can't compete if that were the case.

You realize a EULA contain indemnities? Or even being on reddit?

Start reading about coal and health outcomes associated with childhood in certain radii of burning plants.

Or how water is polluted and diverted from agriculture.

Socialized costs are not exclusive to the nuclear industry (or indemnities).

How can you say the cost of a cleanup or evacuating a Tokyo or New York is irrelevant?

Those are entirely relevant and were you to include them in the cost structure it would make nuclear power far too expensive to be competitive.

I never said they weren't. I said they are nearly irrelevant when calculating the TRUE socialized cost.

Even if we could sue a coal company from co2 emissions because our crops died from a heat wave, we couldn't. Even if there are no indemnities. It would be hard to prove that that specific plant contributed to that specific heat wave. But it's still a socialized cost, indemnity or not.

You learned a big word and think it's a conversation. You're such a big boy!

So tell me why the indemnities aren't socializing the costs and privatizing the profit?

You have no fucking clue, do you? You are completely clueless. You read an article about indemnities in the nuclear industry, and now you have no idea how to explain it at all. You can't actually understand what you read. And you surely wouldn't be able to explain it or connect it to a conversation about socialized costs.

You've proved all this.

I don't think a company known for designing engines for automotive, marine, and aeronautic applications deciding to develop engines for interplanetary applications is nearly as farfetched as you believe it to be.

I already said why you should find out yourself and you just plowed on with not wanting to know or educate yourself for many many posts.

So why should I do your homework for you?

Well, you still have your chance to prove you know what you are talking about.

Tell me how indemnities are the total final socialized cost of thing.

How can you even make a judgement when you don't even know what they are? No wonder you're a fan of nuclear!

You've made it very clear you have no idea what indemnities actually are. Or how they work.

You've also made it clear you don't understand that indemnities are not connected to the total socialized cost. How much did "x" corporation contribute to the polluted water of Flint, MI?

Sure, they have indemnities. Even if we legally could and wanted to, we still can't calculate the total cost. We know the total costs is insane, but don't know how many years of lost productive labor was lost due to health issues. Nor can we assign a specific amount of to each corporation, even if indemnities allowed it.

But you're not a lawyer. You just pretend to be one on the internet.

Why don't you explain it to me in your own words? Surely you can ELI5.

Deluge systems have been used for a long time. At least as far back as Apollo. It absorbs the shock waves from all that thrust. It does some cooling but mostly absorbing shock by flashing to steam and cushioning the pressure waves. It's still basically a massive controlled explosion. You can see it really well in the Shuttle launches but not so much Apollo. What you also see is that the pad is pretty much incinerated. One of the reasons for long turn around times. As far as ditching the pads are raised and there is a large pit there to direct the thrust away from the pad. Search for launch pad videos on you tube.

OK.

Well, anywho, look up those indemnities so next time you'll know what you're talking about. Should make for a much more interesting conversation.

I think you proved you didn't know what you are talking about.

Which is why you avoided talking about it.

LOL. OK. Well at least I'm not the one making a fool of themselves by not knowing what they are talking about.

Good chat!

Ah, I got ya. That is why you kept talking in circles.

I'm not an industry insider. Google and wiki are just about all you need to get the high level gist.

So if you have specific knowledge of an industry insider, why would you assume that everyone would have access to that same knowledge?

Does that also give you knowledge of indemnities in the coal industry? How about plastic? Are you aware of the concept of externalized cost (basically interchangeable with socialized costs)?

Externalized costs exist in all forms of industry. Even groceries. Are you suggesting that only those things specifically mentioned in an indemnity is the entire social cost of a thing? And nuclear is the worst alternative, in terms of externalized costs, per MWh among electrical generation methods?

Expert is kind of a relative term. I do know how the indemnities work in the nuclear industry.

Are you the nuclear expert you were talking about earlier?

OK then. Well it was good chatting with you. Definitely check those things out if you want to consider yourself an informed nuclear advocate.

You do realize that CO2 emission is a socialized cost, right? Socialized costs are bigger than what's in a contract.

I'm beginning to think you have no idea what indemnities are. You keep typing the word, but haven't given any evidence you know how they work.