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stevedonie t1_j81g75q wrote
Reply to SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
So they used nearly all of the engines, but only achieved half of max thrust. Is that because they didn't throttle the engines to 100%, or is there some other reason?
homelessdreamer t1_j81fg0n wrote
Reply to comment by Argon1300 in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
You are absolutely correct, they deserve credit where credit is due. The only thing I would counter you on is the difficulty of launching a large rocket is the number of systems required to work in those environments without failures. Not just the rockets running that long. The reason most space companies start small isn't because they hope to take over the small sat market but because it is more attainable to start small for quicker test and iterations. Bezos strategy is certainly bold but I would argue not very pragmatic. He is basically going all in blind on New Glen. If he pulls it off it will be an incredible feat. But if it fails how many chances will he have to recover. Even Boing, a company with significant industry experience has struggled to keep up with large rocketry in recent years by comparison to Space X. I absolutely love all the competition in space right now but I won't be holding my breath for the first launch of New Glen.
VikingBorealis t1_j81e0bs wrote
Reply to comment by Argon1300 in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
Strangely nonenof that translates to orbit or interplanetary travel...
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Reply to comment by [deleted] in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
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seanbrockest t1_j81b987 wrote
Reply to comment by Argon1300 in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
In this case they've literally spent the last TWO decades working on this, and still have yet to even try, so yeah I'd say that's worse when they're applying for contracts.
New_Poet_338 t1_j81ar6v wrote
Reply to comment by SteveMcQwark in SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
They did that for SLS but the first flight of SLS was a mock production flight. The first flight of SS will be a test flight. There is no chance the infrastructure at Boca Chica would survive that.
yahbluez t1_j81algl wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
You really think that something that has minus 3.600 tons of weight will not go to orbit?
That will not only go to orbit, that will leave the earth gravity.
SteveMcQwark t1_j81a1m4 wrote
Reply to comment by New_Poet_338 in SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
There's also full (launch) duration testing. Doing a full duration test with an engine is often about essentially simulating a launch, ensuring that you can sustain the performance you need for the requisite amount of time.
__Osiris__ t1_j819zbj wrote
Reply to comment by collegefurtrader in SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
More than, since it will have 2 more engines.
New_Poet_338 t1_j8190qi wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
That is what a full duration static test is. An aborted static test is not full duration.
seanbrockest t1_j81905h wrote
Reply to comment by danielravennest in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
I'm still highly skeptical that an engine with that large of a chamber and that high of a chamber pressure can survive, but I guess we'll see!
Ryermeke t1_j817uo4 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
You sure it doesn't reach stage sep in 5 seconds?
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collegefurtrader t1_j815zzt wrote
alvinofdiaspar t1_j81456i wrote
Reply to Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
I'd be a little worried - New Glenn doesn't even have a track record and it's less than 2 years from the launch date; it's a 2 year wait if they miss that window.
allforspace OP t1_j813qys wrote
Reply to SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
If that was only half of the booster's thrust, imagine what full thrust will look like!
LordBrandon t1_j80zt5e wrote
Reply to comment by starhoppers in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
There are zero functioning human moon landing systems in the world. Even if there were a few, dissimilar redundancy can bring down the cost.
LordBrandon t1_j80zak8 wrote
Reply to comment by platinumgus18 in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
Don't forget they hire from a pool of engineers that already work in the most advanced aerospace industry in the world.
LordBrandon t1_j80z40e wrote
Reply to comment by kuroimakina in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
Remember before the billionaires the rockets were more expensive and less ambitious. Unless you can build a rocket on Kickstarter this is as good as it gets.
LordBrandon t1_j80yjvu wrote
Reply to comment by ChrisJD11 in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
They awarded the Apollo rockets to companies that had never been to the moon before as well. Pure corruption.
Argon1300 t1_j80yjid wrote
Reply to comment by homelessdreamer in Blue Origin awarded NASA launch contract for Mars mission (Studying magnetic field) by kuroimakina
I mean... lets give them some credit. New Shepard has worked pretty reliably, even considering the recent failure. They have more experience with operating rocket powered vehicles than most other NewSpace companies. More importantly, they have experience with operating human rated reusable spacecraft, even if they just launch vertically up and then fall back down.
The difficulty in spaceflight for most companies arises in keeping their engines running for long enough to make orbit. Chaining two stages together when you already have the experience to operate them is not that much of a leap.
The only reason Blue is taking so long at the moment is because they wanted to skip smallsat launchers (a wise move given their small market and many competitors) and instead start out with a true monster of a rocket in the form of New Glenn. Rockets of that size take time. Compared to any development program of this type that is not SpaceX they are doing perfectly fine.
Anthony_Pelchat t1_j81gog3 wrote
Reply to comment by stevedonie in SpaceX on Twitter: Super Heavy Booster 7 completed a full duration static fire test of 31 Raptor engines, producing 7.9 million lbf of thrust (~3,600 metric tons) – less than half of the booster’s capability by allforspace
Correct. Engines throttled down to around 50%.