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Atypicalicious t1_j8ly0xj wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
Read the thread. It was people who work in the space industry or have in the past. Detailed answers, too.
Atypicalicious t1_j8lxw0q wrote
Reply to comment by You_Yew_Ewe in Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
We let crime happen, largely.
[deleted] OP t1_j8lxugg wrote
Reply to comment by Atypicalicious in Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
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Atypicalicious t1_j8lxtrx wrote
Reply to comment by You_Yew_Ewe in Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
I don’t think you realize how much lawlessness exists even in the US. I live in San Francisco’s Tenderloin and even tho a block from a SFPD station, it’s fairly lawless. Drugs are sold openly, in the Mission prostitution is out of control, and deadly violence is a heartbeat away. Most housing projects are lawless. LA’s Skid Row is lawless. The American frontier in the mid to late 1800s was lawless. I shouldn’t have to explain this.
You_Yew_Ewe t1_j8lxid5 wrote
Reply to Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
>so how will humanity policeitself?
What do you think we do on earth?
HDSpiele t1_j8lxcod wrote
Reply to Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
I tell you a lot of manufacturing will not be done in space as space infrastructure will always be more expensive than on earth just because you do not have to build air tight buildings and basicly construct the ground plus anything that could be taken care of by gravity will need to be taken care of by a machine also also highly unlikely that there will be human manufacting outside of a planet because launching any to space would be so expensive that building more robots is always better.
Atypicalicious t1_j8lx7tk wrote
Reply to comment by SW_Zwom in Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
I started a previous thread and the consensus from space professionals is that most industries will benefit greatly by being moved into space. Ships at sea have to land but spaceships won’t. The ability to create permanent space installations will make them havens for criminals. Coupled with the difficulty, risk and expense of sending law enforcement, that equals widespread lawlessness.
JakeTurk1971 t1_j8lwzhi wrote
Reply to Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
Sean Connery, since you just described Outland? No, not Outlander, y'wee pups.
SW_Zwom t1_j8lwuis wrote
Reply to Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
Who sais all manufacturing will move to space? I seriously doubt that. Also: There are rules regarding laws at sea, which could simply be adapted for space. I agree it will be harder to enforce them than on earth, but I don't think space will be lawless... Why should it?
Redshift2k5 t1_j8lwrqy wrote
Reply to Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
Whomever stands to gain from policing the space. A mining corp might have private security, a criminal organization might want to maintain control by eliminating other criminals. But this is a science reddit, not science fiction
[deleted] OP t1_j8lwim5 wrote
space-ModTeam t1_j8lw9ch wrote
Your post has been removed. For simple questions like these please use the weekly "All space question" thread pinned at the top of the subreddit.
The_Fredrik t1_j8lq0e6 wrote
Reply to comment by Bewaretheicespiders in Micrometeorites, The Expanse, and Deflector Shields by GuyD427
That would be pretty interesting
Bewaretheicespiders t1_j8lptj5 wrote
Reply to comment by The_Fredrik in Micrometeorites, The Expanse, and Deflector Shields by GuyD427
Im speculating here, but maybe some cosmonauts are hoping for a ride back to not-Russia. Or just some pissed off russian workers, who knows.
At any rate, we did see sabotage on Soyuz in recent years and I dont believe for one minute it was the USA/CAD/EU/JPN crew.
The_Fredrik t1_j8llvst wrote
Reply to comment by Bewaretheicespiders in Micrometeorites, The Expanse, and Deflector Shields by GuyD427
Why would you self-sabotage the spaceship you are in?
MrZorg58 t1_j8lf55d wrote
Keep your eyes on this young man. Brilliant mind. Here's his concept in keeping cosmic rays away from space craft.
https://electroscience.osu.edu/news/2015/05/markus-novak-among-nasas-gcr-challenge-winners
misterjive t1_j8lblc0 wrote
When people think of the asteroid belt, they think of that scene from The Empire Strikes Back. It isn't remotely like that at all. The truth of the matter is space is humongous and there's just not a lot in it. The only place where it's really a significant danger is places like Earth orbit where it's crap we've shot up there that represents the biggest risk.
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CFCYYZ t1_j8l9lm7 wrote
Micrometeors zip along at 10 to 15 km per second. Something smaller than a pea has the same kinetic energy as a speeding car. Stopping or deflecting that is not easy.
There are "bumper" hull designs that use a series of spaced layers. These are penetrated in turn, slowing anything dangerous. Safe, but at the cost of an expensive heavy multi layer hull.
[deleted] t1_j8l95m6 wrote
Reply to comment by Spartan24242 in Micrometeorites, The Expanse, and Deflector Shields by GuyD427
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Warrior_and_reader t1_j8l94r5 wrote
The asteroid belt is extremely sparse, so it’s not much more dangerous than anywhere else. Impacts will happen, but any human crewed ship that is exploring the solar system will need to be bulky anyway to block radiation, so armoring up won’t change anything.
As far as interstellar travel goes, the simplest method of protection would be to put a large mass in the “front” of the vessel, like a captured asteroid, and let it take the hits.
And in all cases, local, system-wide or even interstellar, radar can be used to detect larger objects at a distance to avoid collisions.
Bewaretheicespiders t1_j8l908a wrote
Reply to comment by Spartan24242 in Micrometeorites, The Expanse, and Deflector Shields by GuyD427
>This is because a micro meteorite has hit that Soyuz capsule
So they say, but who believes it? There has been obvious self-sabotage in the past.
mcds99 t1_j8l72a2 wrote
Many space craft have been damaged by bits of space dust.
Spartan24242 t1_j8l6szm wrote
In current events, the Soyuz capsule has been deemed unfit to return ISS personnel. They now have to wait for a spacecraft to come “rescue” them. This is because a micro meteorite has hit that Soyuz capsule. So it is not just a problem for the future, it’s here an now.
aaronrules33 t1_j8lyc7o wrote
Reply to comment by Atypicalicious in Once manufacturing moves almost entirely into space and the workers want drugs, gambling and prostitution and wanted criminals on Earth can escape to space, the solar system away from gravity wells will become largely lawless. Who will do the policing and how? by [deleted]
I’m confused how in your version of events it’s seemingly easy for general miscreants to exploit space-based infrastructure yet impossible for nations or corporations to have any control.
Are these guys just grabbing onto the sides of supply rockets and holding their breath? The entities establishing these installations, be they public or private, have the ability to do so but lack the capability to staff or secure them?
Explain how these vagabonds get to space and/or these various places, and then explain why any form of security force couldn’t do so at equal or more efficient means. I think that’s the biggest hang up with the whole idea.