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Reply to comment by caseigl in NEW JWST DEEP FIELD - Pandora's Cluster by GeoGeoGeoGeo
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PandaEven3982 t1_j8wn8bg wrote
Reply to comment by danielravennest in Terraforming a magnetosphere possible? by Pornelius_McSucc
I don't wanna talk tech. The people are what need therapy and help.
Edit consider the pace of technology advancement versus the pace of social progress.
Edit yes I understand Von Neumann Machines.
danielravennest t1_j8wmqvp wrote
Reply to comment by PandaEven3982 in Terraforming a magnetosphere possible? by Pornelius_McSucc
Have you seen my book on Seed Factories? That's the idea of a starter set of machines that are used to make more machines for itself until you have a full range of industry. Using "smart tools" (automation, robotics, software, and AI) it should mostly run itself. A member cooperative can split the cost and make it affordable.
The real magic happens when a mature factory starts spitting out new starter sets. Then it can grow exponentially.
applegodzilla t1_j8wgxuu wrote
Reply to comment by scribe_ in NEW JWST DEEP FIELD - Pandora's Cluster by GeoGeoGeoGeo
I love these photos but man do they freak me out a bit. The universe is enormous.
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caseigl t1_j8wa3l2 wrote
Reply to comment by IamAFlaw in NEW JWST DEEP FIELD - Pandora's Cluster by GeoGeoGeoGeo
I don't know about that. I'm pushing 50 years old and I'm tired. I'm very fortunate career wise and economically, but still the drum of unending responsibility marches on. There is already more to explore than I will ever possibly have time for. Things getting even faster sounds even more stressful.
We are trying to process endless news, 600 new TV shows and movies a year, and constant alerts on digital devices through a brain designed 250,000 years ago.
Even when things are generally enjoyable feeling like you are always behind and missing out is hard enough for 80 years let alone 500!
abstractengineer2000 t1_j8w946r wrote
Reply to comment by IamAFlaw in NEW JWST DEEP FIELD - Pandora's Cluster by GeoGeoGeoGeo
Its early universe so probably no life back then
e10hssanamai t1_j8w8h9e wrote
Reply to NEW JWST DEEP FIELD - Pandora's Cluster by GeoGeoGeoGeo
I wasn't expecting to be able to zoom in that much on the zoomable link. Its amazing.
ddd4175 t1_j8w5cka wrote
Reply to comment by NuiNishimiya in NEW JWST DEEP FIELD - Pandora's Cluster by GeoGeoGeoGeo
There are probably intelligent life forms out there, we might already have seen planets that have them but they're just way too far and we're probably seeing millions/billions of years in the past.
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Reply to If someone were to hypothetically put a sun next to ours as a binary system, would this increase the length of the habitable zone radius of the system? by Country_Royal
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baphosam t1_j8w2lyq wrote
Reply to comment by Lampposthead2526 in If someone were to hypothetically put a sun next to ours as a binary system, would this increase the length of the habitable zone radius of the system? by Country_Royal
Possible when we can harvest galactic Amounts of resources and the notion of Terraforming is less fiction.
triffid_hunter t1_j8w2kp5 wrote
Reply to comment by Negative-Fan8460 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
> But matter can't be created nor destroyed right?
Sure it can, nuclear reactors turn mass into energy - or is it even matter if the released energy is actually the binding energy of a nucleus which appears as mass?
Energy can't be created or destroyed though (except by the big bang apparently), only transformed from one form to another.
> How did small atoms expand themselves to become size of galaxies.
They didn't start off as atoms, the Universe was far too hot for atoms to form for about 380,000 years - and the CMB is the remains of the light that was flying around at the moment when things were cool enough that atoms could form and the universe became transparent.
If you're wondering why it didn't all collapse into black holes at that density, we think that might be where the black holes at the center of galaxies came from…
Also, the expansion doesn't have a border or edge, it's more useful to imagine new empty space being injected everywhere all at once, like infinite raisin bread rising.
> I thought big bang was like a supernova where a massive amount of matter exploded
Nope, it's a time-like surface from which energy and spacetime poured forth, and could reasonably be described as a white hole - you can draw a ray in literally any direction you like, and it'll eventually intersect the big bang at the moment of our universe's creation.
> which external force was applied on universe to stretch it?
We have no compelling evidence for anything outside our 3+1 perceivable dimensions, and what we can see is same-ish in every direction for as far as we can see, so why not an internal force?
It's called dark energy fwiw, and it's an ongoing field of study since we know almost nothing about it
PoppersOfCorn t1_j8w2doh wrote
Reply to comment by Negative-Fan8460 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
*dark energy not dark matter
dulce_3t_decorum_3st t1_j8w2ca1 wrote
Reply to comment by Negative-Fan8460 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
The short answer is, we don’t know.
I highly recommend you watch this lecture by Lawrence Krauss, “A Universe From Nothing”
Negative-Fan8460 OP t1_j8w1yl3 wrote
Reply to comment by Bahiga84 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
I understand quite a lot now thanks. But i still don't get where did the dark matter come from that's expanding the universe even more and accelerates it🤔
Bahiga84 t1_j8w1t37 wrote
Try Google "big expansion" The baloon is a good example, but think of the Atoms of gas inside, and not the surface. each trying to get as far away from each other, while it gets bigger without adding anything. thats why we cant see futher away than 13b lj. It was too dense for light to travel and too hot for Atoms to condense. At least thats how i understand the latest models as Amateur...
E: spelling
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woodlark14 t1_j8w0v0z wrote
Reply to comment by Negative-Fan8460 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
In your analogy, and I can't stress that it is an analogy enough, the surface of the balloon is representing 3d space. We don't see the interior of the balloon because it's not the universe it's the shape that the universe is curved around.
What we actually observe is that distances on a cosmic scale are all getting longer at a range proportional to their length. This is distinct in some ways from observing objects moving away from us, specifically it isn't restricted by the speed of light as the objects don't really have the velocity that the changing distance to them implies.
dulce_3t_decorum_3st t1_j8w0tq4 wrote
Reply to comment by Negative-Fan8460 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
> How did small atoms expand themselves to become size of galaxies.
They didn’t. Until roughly 380,000 years after the Big Bang, the entire universe was a thick opaque cloud of plasma of electrons and nuclei.
As the universe expanded, it cooled off enough to let the plasma become atoms, and the cosmos became transparent.
It is space itself that’s expanding, not the particles.
> I thought big bang was like a supernova where a massive amount of matter exploded.
This is a common misconception. A supernova is the explosion of a particular size star that occupies a point in space. The Big Bang was not an explosion, but the expansion of space.
Imagine infinite points packed together with infinite density. Those points occupy everywhere. There is no inside or outside.
Now imagine each of those infinite points moving further from its adjacent points, with the space between them expanding at an increasing rate.
For 380,000 years, the universe was entirely comprised of plasma but then it cooled enough that the electrons and nuclei combined to form atoms, molecules, dust, stars, planets and so on.
We have evidence of the above (post-380k years) since the discovery of the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB).
>which external force was applied on universe to stretch it?
The best current hypothesis is Dark Energy, but we can only measure its effect. It falls outside the known laws of physics.
Edit: some relevant reading
abcxyztpgv2 t1_j8w0qd3 wrote
Can you figure out centre of a complete eclipse balloon? Big bang is that tiny fraction of second between zero air in Balloon to perfect eclipse balloon. And it's not done yet. It's still blowing outwards dominated by dark energy. Think of galaxies as polka dots on balloon when their is no air. Now with a air filled balloon those dots are light years apart. It's not a 100% accurate picture as it's missing gravity and why some galaxies are bound to be merged whereas others drift apart. But it's a good imagination to clear your head that there is no center. Air is filled in the balloon everywhere at same time.
halffullofthoughts t1_j8w0i0y wrote
Reply to comment by Negative-Fan8460 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
Or the balloon is so humongous that we only see a tiny fragment of it that just feels flat, hard to tell with the data we're given
Negative-Fan8460 OP t1_j8vzr1w wrote
Reply to comment by demanbmore in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
But matter can't be created nor destroyed right? How did small atoms expand themselves to become size of galaxies. I thought big bang was like a supernova where a massive amount of matter exploded. But if universe really starched itself like rubber then how does dark matter exist in between galaxies and which external force was applied on universe to stretch it?
dulce_3t_decorum_3st t1_j8vzo8i wrote
Reply to comment by Negative-Fan8460 in Shouldn't the universe be a hollow sphere ? by Negative-Fan8460
But the Big Bang didn’t happen in the same way as an inflating balloon. Your premise is false. The expansion happened everywhere. That is, each measurable point in space grew (and continues to grow) further from all other points in space. This is called inflation and expansion.
Edit: I should add that for this reason, every point is the centre of the universe relative to all other points. If you were able to teleport to the edge of our observable universe, you’d be at the centre of a similarly-sized observable universe “bubble.”
danielravennest t1_j8wqhrb wrote
Reply to comment by PandaEven3982 in Terraforming a magnetosphere possible? by Pornelius_McSucc
Von Neumann machines are fully automated, which is still too hard to do. A seed factory allows some human labor where needed. It just turns the output into self-expansion rather than cars or washing machines like a regular factory.
Also Von Neumann machines make an exact copy of themselves. That's "direct replication". They have to start with a full set of machines needed. Seed factories work like plant seeds. They start with the minimum set of equipment to allow growth, then eventually can make new starter sets. But the new starter sets are not identical to the grown factories.
Social progress is being held back by fear. Rural white people are afraid of losing their position on top of the "natural order of things" (their view, not mine). Having grown up in New York City in an immigrant family, I'm not afraid of people who are different than me. They are just people.
But if everyone is well enough off through productive means, you don't have to be afraid of losing out.