Recent comments in /f/space

Pee_Wee_Mer_Man t1_j8yw5yv wrote

The billionare class. I believe that greed is one of the great filters. The main obstacle to reducing the harm that we do to our own planet, is the interests of greedy rich people. Although a greedy schmuck of a billionare is currently helping to advance space exploration technologies, I think his kind will slow us down in the long run.

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PandaEven3982 t1_j8ysh96 wrote

In your estimation. Is it off the cuff, where you actually look at psychology, have you looked at medicine, have you looked at making it possible instead of saying it isn't? Have you looked at any numbers? Have you looked at methodologies? Have you looked at the parenting problem?. All of these things are actually solvable. You want to know what's not solvable? Violence-based capitalism.

EDIT: the short hand is you believe humans are too stupid to grow up, so it's not possible. Would that be a fair assessment?

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O5-20 t1_j8yseg1 wrote

Hmm, I swore I remember reading that, but I agree It’s definitely still a significant danger.

It would be nice if we could work together, but the nature of human progress isn’t in cooperation to the contrary of how every wishes it was.

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ShadowKiller147741 t1_j8ys26r wrote

I never said trap us here on Earth, I'm saying that it's still a significant, indiscriminant danger. And I can agree with the conflict driving progress part, but I'd rather humanity as a whole move past needing conflict to get shit done. Not saying it's likely, just preferable

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O5-20 t1_j8yrl8j wrote

The amount of debris needed to trap us here on earth is a very large amount, plus, the usefulness of space will drive solutions to orbital debris which could be very useful in the future.

Also, that assumes that smashing satellites is only option used, even when other countries have considered pushing satellites out of orbit or using lasers.

The reality is that progress is derived from conflict. Without conflict, there is no progress.

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krashlia t1_j8yrl1k wrote

I remember more conservative and bumpkin types were worried about this, and their concerns were dismissed as something almost hysterical. And only after it was shot down was it okay for everyone to be upset about a spy vehicle above us and over US territory.

A ton of people in this country *suck* when it comes to the concept of security. They seem to believe perceiving a threat from afar is more of a problem than the fact that a threat exists.

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ShadowKiller147741 t1_j8ypnyp wrote

Having territorial interests in space will inevitably lead to conflicts in space. Whatever form that may take, it'll invariably lead to immense consequences since things like conflict debris are a much greater concern in space than on Earth.

If, for example, a military vehicle is destroyed on Earth, it's highly unlikely that debris will cause damage to civilians (assuming it's not in civilian areas). That debris will eventually be consumed by the Earth and not be of significant note to anyone. But that same vehicle sending shrapnel and orbital debris around a planet creates a minefield for anything entering or exitting it, regardless of affiliation or alliance.

At the end of the day, you want to avoid armed conflict in space as much as possible. It's why countries shouldn't shoot down each other's satellites, it fucks ALL of them up.

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