Recent comments in /f/space

jerrythecactus t1_j9l6j88 wrote

That would depend on the necessity of such a project. There are many factors to consider, such as where or how supplies will be transported to the facility, who will work at it, what the financial benefit would be, and the technological capability to build a McDonald's on mars.

Purely for the sake of speculation, installing any specific restaurant or store facilities on mars will require at the very least human habitation on mars to be mostly self sustaining without outside support, which means some level of terraforming or sufficient habitation systems to accommodate possibly thousands of people all of whom may not be trained scientists or engineers.

The discussion is mostly scifi at this point, as we already struggle to have people survive extended stays in orbit of earth, let alone on another planet long enough to build up a population large enough to make the prospect of McDonald's supplying franchises to the supposed colony. I imagine a lot of the limiting factors will be figuring out how to grow and process enough food to not only cover basic needs but to even make a luxury product like fast food available too.

There's also the matter of considering how or why a corporation like McDonald's would hope to benefit from such a effort. I imagine after a time the McDonald's installed on mars would become it's own mars exclusive chain since it would basically be feeding only mars population habitants and using those profits to keep itself running. Similar to how McDonald's has different divisions for different countries, mars would have it's own corporate McDonalds division that would only be linked to the main earth division by copyright and company policies and safety standards, with the profit generated being owned by the specific division that produced it. Really, this could be said for any earth origin corporation that produces facilities on mars.

Really, there's no realistic timeline for such a situation to occur, and I can only give general speculative answers based on levels of technical progress in a hypothetical mars colony.

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PandaEven3982 t1_j9l68kl wrote

Untill we blow the planet up sure. But we're being pretty irresponsible down here and I don't see you having survivability out there for a while without the stuff earth currently provides. We spend a lot more on military than we do on space. Between planetary warming and social violence and capitalism, the pot is boiling. Shrugs

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PandaEven3982 t1_j9l4iba wrote

Yeah. I'm really not. You're the captain of the titanic, looking at the very tip of the iceberg, never seeing the size of the thing. Go look up the estimate sizes of the market women and children being trafficed. It's an industry. A rather large one. Do you think the cops do a good job at ferreting this stuff out? You sir, are the delusional one. GO FORTH AND ACTUALLY LOOK. Try it for real. Or stay deluded.

Edit:' being discussed in r/futurology rught now, in fact.

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Bewaretheicespiders t1_j9l36fm wrote

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jerrythecactus t1_j9l25jj wrote

Mars is a cold radioactive desert planet with a thin atmosphere, needless to say human habitation on mars will be on the same level as trying to live exclusively in a pressurized tin can with all of your living essentials being delivered via cargo landers.

Time spent on the surface would mostly consist of maintaining systems and doing research, which by that point might be more or less limited to figuring out how to turn the mars sands into usable resources. At the current point of time, a human habitation on mars is a massively pointless endeavor that would only serve to mentally traumatize a few scientists and engineers who may or may not end up dying in a place so far from home they'll never be recovered for even a symbolic gesture of closure.

The moon might be more manageable but that's just because it's closer to earth, a moon base itself would just be a ground format space station that might eventually expand to be for use at launching and refueling craft to mars and other planets without the burden of the earth's atmosphere to account for.

In short, at least for the foreseeable future, any human habitation on the moon or mars will be minimal purpose built habitats for industrial, research, or transport purposes.

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A_bleak_ass_in_tote t1_j9l234d wrote

LEO tourism for the world's billionaires and an arms race to mine near-Earth objects with drones are all I can reasonably see happening over the next 50 years or so.

While our technology has advanced significantly over the last 54 years, the perils of long-term space colonies are almost incalculable. Any small mistake could cost the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people, which could bring huge legal liabilities.

We only get a few thousand people each year to risk life and limb in Antarctica, which is a much more hospitable environment than anything else outside Earth's atmosphere.

Unless some alien culture brings their technology to us gift-wrapped and ready to use by our very fragile bodies, I don't foresee us getting off this rock for the next few hundred years.

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5seat t1_j9l1nam wrote

I feel like all they're waiting on (other than the FAA license) is the installation of the water deluge system; and that might actually be the last thing needed to secure the license. Having followed this program since it was a shoddily-welded prototype in a dirt field, it's going to really be something to see a full stack test flight at last!

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