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thelastestgunslinger t1_j9ryud9 wrote

There’s a really interesting article about this on space.com

The really interesting thing is that special relativity (which is what says nothing can move faster than light) is about local spacetime, because it requires a local frame of reference. General relativity governs non-local references, and it’s indifferent to the speed of light.

> The notion of the absolute speed limit comes from special relativity, but who ever said that special relativity should apply to things on the other side of the universe? That's the domain of a more general theory. A theory like…general relativity.

It's true that in special relativity, nothing can move faster than light. But special relativity is a local law of physics. Or in other words, it's a law of local physics. That means that you will never, ever watch a rocket ship blast by your face faster than the speed of light. Local motion, local laws.

But a galaxy on the far side of the universe? That's the domain of general relativity, and general relativity says: who cares! That galaxy can have any speed it wants, as long as it stays way far away, and not up next to your face.

It goes deeper than this. Concepts like a well-defined "velocity" make sense only in local regions of space. You can only measure something's velocity and actually call it a "velocity" when it's nearby and when the rules of special relativity apply. Stuff super-duper far away, like the galaxies we're talking about it? If it's not close, it doesn't count as a “velocity” in the way that special relativity cares about.

Special relativity doesn't care about the speed — superluminal or otherwise — of a distant galaxy. And neither should you.

If I think about it too much i start to dislike it. But there it is (probably significantly oversimplified for laypeople).

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Infernalism t1_j9rxlp6 wrote

You can use the old 'balloon' analogy.

Take a balloon and mark a bunch of dots on the outside of the balloon. Then blow it up.

As you blow it up, the dots expand away from each other, but they're not actually moving, are they? It's the fabric of the balloon stretching.

Likewise, the fabric of space is expanding and stretching. Dark matter is what keeps galaxies connected to each other through this expanding, but the galaxies are spreading apart from each other.

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farox t1_j9rx9w8 wrote

t1: x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x 

t2: x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x  x

Each x is only one space further apart and has only "moved" a small bit compared to the distance of the first and the last. It took me a while to wrap my head around it as well, but it's space itself that is expanding, very slowly... but everywhere.

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MrTurdFace69 t1_j9rwanz wrote

Reply to comment by i_can_has_rock in Time dilation question by [deleted]

But I'm saying that doesn't exist in reality whatsoever.

If you have mass (or even light itself does this) in this universe, then you will effect the time dilation of other mass objects and they will effect you. These effects permeate all of the universe.

Sure, you can imagine such a place. But so what? It wouldn't apart of this universe, because by definition it can't be.

If you're just using this as an imagination technique to describe what you'd see the universe do if you experience no time, then ok. But I don't think referring to relativity is necessary in that instance. I mean you could just instead say "what would the universe look like if I experienced no time?"

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