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nosmelc t1_j9th4j4 wrote

Yes radio does lose power when it travels long distances.

I think radio might be the most appropriate for this kind of communication because it should be the first method of communication that technological civilizations discover. That means everybody should be able to send and receive radio.

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Soulphite t1_j9tfnta wrote

The Earth is invisible in this photo. Blue dot is illustrating 200 ly. Diameter.

Edit: to further blow your mind and put it in perspective it would take you 200 years to go from one edge of that blue dot to the other traveling at a constant speed of almost 300 million meters per second (186,000 miles/second).

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andi_bk t1_j9tevx2 wrote

Well yes and no… i guess…

If they had the technology and lived only maybe 5000 lightyears away, they could get our messages in about 5000 years… i believe that by then we would have met already because technology is advancing at a tremendous rate and we are already researching different new types of drives for space transportation. It’s certainly still a very long time until mankind will reach 0.1 times speed of light, but 5000 years? Who knows what we have until then…

If you think you know, what we will have in 5000 years: think again… our ancestors from 5000 years ago would simply be unable to understand what kinds of tech we have. It would be magic to them… a simple lighter would mean you have to be a god!

Now if we today send out a signal into space, those who would eventually receive it would probably already know before any earth signal ever reached them.

And yes, i believe that we will find a way to effectively travel faster than light in that kind of timeframe.

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Ruadhan2300 t1_j9tep90 wrote

There's also signal-attenuation to consider.

Radio signals disperse in open space and eventually become indistinguishable from the background radiation.
For all but our most powerful directed transmissions, this is in the realm of a couple hundred lightyears at most.

A world 2000 lightyears away wouldn't be able to understand or recognise the signal even when the radio waves start passing it by. At best it'd be a slight increase in radio complexity drowned out by the cosmic background noise.

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nosmelc t1_j9tea12 wrote

An earth-like planet with a similar technological civilization would have to be no more than 122 light years away to detect our signals because we've only been using radio for that long. Most likely they'd have to be much closer or the signals would just be too weak to pick out from the background noise.

122 light years sounds like a long distance, but keep in mind that our Milky Way galaxy is over 100,000 light years across. Any other galaxy would be hopelessly too far away to ever receive a radio signal. The closest major galaxy is Andromeda at over 2.5 million light years away.

It's entirely possible there are several radio signals from other planets traveling from planets in our galaxy but they either haven't reached us yet or are too weak to pick up by the time they've crossed that vast distance.

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NotAHamsterAtAll t1_j9t7huo wrote

Easy. There was no Big Bang.

(Because the theory is not compatible with actual observations.)

Now comes the hard part, if there was no Big Bang, then the observations that lead to the creation of the Big Bang hypothesis are interpreted wrongly. And that opens up for a lot of things to be changed.

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