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djellison t1_jabjb0i wrote

>It's got a relatively high surface gravity.

Venus, Mars, Mercury, Io, our Moon, Ganymede, Titan and Europa all have higher.

>It is outside Jupiter's massive radiation belt

As are Venus, Mars, Mercury, our Moon

>There is water ice easily available on the surface

As there is at Mars and some would argue on certain parts of the Moon

>Close proximity to the asteroid belt

So is Mars.

>and the trojan asteroids around Jupiter,

They're actually a long way from Jupiter.

>The Jovian moon Callisto is the best body in the solar system to consider for future human colonization.

For what purpose?

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22cubed t1_jabhn7o wrote

Been there once, it's probably fine for just looking at stars and stuff. But don't go there trying to see the northern lights, because there's no north-facing area.

There is an observation area on the shore of Lake Michigan where you can look out (as opposed to looking straight up with tall trees on either side of you), but that observation area faces the other side of a small bay. And that side of the bay isn't part of the dark sky park, so there are definitely lights along the shoreline.

Still, though, it's probably the best dark sky you'll find in or even around Michigan, except for the one in Pennsylvania.

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Bipogram t1_jabecm6 wrote

In the bad old days (early 90s) I used a patched conic solver.

I wager that there are tools to do that kicking around.

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Paths with a gravity assist (handy!)

https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/39462-gravity-assist-trajectory-design-and-analysis?s_tid=blogs_rc_5

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Someone's thesis (Matlab, again)

https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/handle/2152/ETD-UT-2011-12-4849

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More Matlab (just adjust Mars till Saturn)

https://github.com/chicomcastro/optimized-Earth-Mars-transfer

etc.

And there are half a dozen antique TDs about FORTRAN codes kicking around on the NASA TRS.

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triffid_hunter t1_jabeay7 wrote

> I like that you are taking it realistic though.

This is a sub for hard science after all, there's others better suited for creative writing ;)

> what would you think it would sound like if we could hear everything without consequences and death and not universal atmosphere, just like... our ears would be able to hear loud noises just fine and no destruction from sound... just imaginative... just a what if.

Ever been near a rocky seashore on a windy night?

Like that but louder than a jet engine 24/7 (mostly from the sun) with occasional gut-thumping cracks thrown in (from large celestial events) and maybe a couple discernible tones from millisecond pulsars depending on how loud of a sound your medium could carry before hitting vacuum at one extreme.

It would be pretty unpleasant

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Exciting-Release-284 OP t1_jabdaui wrote

Damn man, it was just a what if situation with creative thoughts. I like that you are taking it realistic though. But what would you think it would sound like if we could hear everything without consequences and death and not universal atmosphere, just like... our ears would be able to hear loud noises just fine and no destruction from sound... just imaginative... just a what if.

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triffid_hunter t1_jabcc5j wrote

Sound works by particles in close proximity repelling each other and thus passing pressure ripples along - so we either have sound everywhere and no chance of orbits or life, or vast swathes of emptiness with occasional islands where life could occur.

Fwiw it's thought that some of the variations in the CMB were from 'phonons' ie packets of sound energy in the plasma - see here

Also note that we have problems with the sound of rocket exhaust shredding concrete at launch pads (which is the main reason why we spray water under rockets when they lift off, it breaks up the shockwaves) - so astronomical events would trivially destroy everything over and over again if their sound could reach us.

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Shrike99 t1_jabbz5s wrote

Reply to comment by CardboardSoyuz in The Case for Callisto by MoreGull

Where'd you get 28km/s?

My handy dandy Delta-V map says LEO to Callisto's surface is only ~14.2km/s. I know Delta-V maps aren't super accurate but I find it hard to believe it's that wrong.

For reference, the map also puts LEO to Mars surface at 9.5km/s, which is within a reasonable margin of error of 10km/s.

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Exciting-Release-284 OP t1_jabake7 wrote

But what if the only effect that was help was sound? What if there was something that sound could travel through in space and it wouldn't have effected us and we could withstand the sound, in a way that we can hear all sound just fine! It comes to my thoughts that maybe space would sound cool! It already does!

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