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MoreGull OP t1_jadbzpn wrote

Reply to comment by Real_Affect39 in The Case for Callisto by MoreGull

Indeed. The radiation from Jupiter is intense. I think the current spacecraft in orbit around Jupiter (Juno) has its orbits planned to spend as much time as possible outside the radiation belt.

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HunkyMump OP t1_jadba6p wrote

Great answer, thanks for your time. So even though due to expansion of space-time some galaxies will moving away from us at effectively the speed of light, they won’t be “frozen in time” from our perspective because that increase in distance doesn’t equate to an increase in velocity?

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Real_Affect39 t1_jadb3tv wrote

I actually made this argument in a uni paper I wrote recently, Callisto is the only Jupiter of Moon that can be rationally colonised, even sending robotic missions to land on Europa would be insanely difficult due to the radiation belts.

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rckrusekontrol t1_jad91sz wrote

You might not mean time dilation- since space is expanding it will not change the speed of objects. Like stretching a balloon, two dots will grow apart, but that doesn’t mean they are traveling relative to each other.

Light doesn’t experience time. But what does the expansion mean for observing distant galaxies? I do know that there are some galaxies that we will never be able to see. The expansion of space will happen faster than their light can traverse that distance.

Other galaxies will red shift until they aren’t detectable any more- light may still be reaching us but that frequency of the light as it travels towards us will slow. This is sort of like being in a wave pool and walking backwards. The time between waves grows greater the further away you get from the source.

When we calculate the age of galaxies, we have to consider expansion, and the degree of red shift helps us figure it out. Light that has been traveling since right after the Big Bang may have only been traveling for 13 billion years… But it will have travelled many many more light years in that time.

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rksd t1_jad7x4c wrote

Reply to comment by schnazzychase in The Case for Callisto by MoreGull

I'm aware which is why I used the word "practical". When we have a city of say, a million people getting most of their power from a fusion reactor then I might get chubby about the prospect of us operating a fusion reactor the better part of a billion kilometers from here.

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solidcordon t1_jad63ob wrote

The rovers on mars are quite far from olympus mons. Pretty sure it would take a really long time to get there, like years or decades.

It's technically possible to send a new rover to climb that mountain but the scientific justification for that expenditure is lacking.

Landing on an inclined surface is more difficult / dangerous than a nice flat level area, so the risk may also be a problem.

Mars has killed a few probes. Bear in mind that if anything goes wrong with the multimillion dollar rover at any stage it can lead to politicians cutting funding for future exploration.

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DungeonsandDevils t1_jad5893 wrote

From my understanding you can imagine space and time sort of like a trampoline. You put a bunch of marbles on the trampoline, they aren’t heavy enough to bend it much so they roll around on their own. You put a bowling ball in the middle, and suddenly all the little marbles are pulled to the bowling ball.

We’re marbles, we don’t bend the fabric much, but we live on a bowling ball that does. Mass causes a distortion in spacetime, that distortion causes the effect we know as gravity.

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stock-prince-WK OP t1_jad47t2 wrote

I’m not confused at all. I understand Mons is on Mars. Which is why I asked if any robots have ever been able to get close ups photos of it.

Do not see how this question can’t be asked in Reddit but ok 👍

EDIT: I see I did mention the space shuttle orbiting. I was wrong about that. Whatever it is that is taking the photos of Mons is what I was referring to.

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PhotonicSymmetry t1_jad3ps5 wrote

Reply to comment by dgames_90 in The Case for Callisto by MoreGull

Hey, I wouldn't call it a pipe dream cultivated by scam artists. Mars has appeal purely for the exploration - just like any other planet. Humans will surely set foot on Mercury too if we don't eliminate ourselves sooner. Mars will never be terraformed and terraforming Mars is a terrible idea. But a reasonable sized human settlement for scientific purposes with a decent number of orbital habitats is in the cards. Over time, I expect most people living within Mars SOI will be living in orbit and perhaps going down to the surface to work.

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