Recent comments in /f/space
nagabalashka t1_jajdiho wrote
Reply to comment by 12edDawn in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
Explode a balloon in front of your hand, you're fine, you feel the burst but nothing more.
Explode the same balloon in your ass and you'll be in pain.
Erinalope t1_jajc7cz wrote
Reply to comment by Embite in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
Scientists are typically pessimistic with unknown variables and there may have been other forces at work that added to the effect. They’ll study the results plus the ESA is sending a follow up mission to the asteroid which will add to the data. There’s still so little we know about asteroids it might not be a bad idea to do a dart 2 with a lander to examine a different type of asteroid interior more closely.
[deleted] t1_jajbrv1 wrote
[removed]
rocketsocks t1_jajbgi0 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
That would be less valuable than other studies. DART with Dimorphos is one data point, to gain enough knowledge of the problem space to be able to build actual asteroid diversion systems based on the principle would require a lot more data points (realistically dozens). We need to understand the variations of how rubble pile asteroids are built, the range of possible impact dynamics, and what levels of predictability can be expected along with what features and measurable aspects can be relied on to guide that predictability. It may be that the next rubble pile asteroid we try to do this with is twice as effective, or half as effective, or maybe not effective at all, we don't have that data yet. DART is really just the first step of a long journey towards building the technology of asteroid diversion, and it is also not the only way to do it. It's a technique that will work in some situations but not others.
A lot of people imagine DART as being like this prototype of a system that we can just pull off the shelf and use to save humanity, but it's just basic research into the problem space, it's nowhere near anything like a prototype.
Starks t1_jajadty wrote
Reply to NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
Does DART scale up though? Would it be better to have a fleet of them, larger ones, or have more generic gravity tractors ready for longer-term defense options?
[deleted] t1_jajabmp wrote
Reply to comment by dern_the_hermit in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
[removed]
Impossible-Error166 t1_jaj9pml wrote
Reply to comment by Embite in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
Its also how much the asteroid breaks apart and if gravity will pull it together.
Erisian23 t1_jaj9hnx wrote
Reply to comment by shamSmash in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
Yes I should have put the /s
Impossible-Error166 t1_jaj9f7d wrote
Reply to comment by could_use_a_snack in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
I think finding out if we can redirect is a real problem.
Its also amusing that people think this is a waste of money, its like saying we should not invest in a military when you have Russia next to you.
dern_the_hermit t1_jaj9367 wrote
Reply to comment by FlingingGoronGonads in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
Insults are completely inappropriate.
> loss of data is no big deal
It's not necessarily an existential threat, is the point. Let's stayed focused and on-topic here.
curvebombr t1_jaj92uu wrote
Reply to NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
For those that don't know, minutes are a measure of angles. One minute of angle is roughly equal to 1in at 100yard distance. So, 33 minutes is quite a substantial change at this distance.
Omfgsomanynamestaken t1_jaj8zi5 wrote
Reply to comment by could_use_a_snack in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
I mean if an asteroid isn't redirected from its collision course with earth... there won't be any real problems anymore. So there's that reason too!
FlingingGoronGonads t1_jaj8v7t wrote
Reply to comment by dern_the_hermit in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
Sure, chuckles, loss of data is no big deal. Especially when you know ahead of time that the transient object/behaviour you're looking for means that the light source has no guarantee of being at the same brightness or position next exposure.
Musk fanatics are forever betraying their ignorance of science. Bye-bye, troll.
dern_the_hermit t1_jaj8btq wrote
Reply to comment by FlingingGoronGonads in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
> What happens when the actual object you're trying to observe is blotted out with an adjacent satellite streak
Take another picture. Pictures are cheap.
[deleted] t1_jaj8bbz wrote
shamSmash t1_jaj6z58 wrote
Reply to comment by Erisian23 in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
Is this a meme?
FlingingGoronGonads t1_jaj6mwh wrote
Reply to comment by dern_the_hermit in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
What happens when the actual object you're trying to observe is blotted out with an adjacent satellite streak? Vera Rubin will be taking short exposures - lots of them. Wide-field surveys need the sky to be open because, you know, they're looking for unknown sources, or need to see if known sources are doing unexpected things. Why is that difficult to understand?
Repulsive_Poem_5204 t1_jaj5nzx wrote
I can't read "zoom" anymore without immediately thinking of a Mazda
mistaekNot t1_jaj55j4 wrote
Reply to comment by Embite in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
some of the energy is in the shrapnels speed. if the spacecraft gets buried into the dimorphos then all of its energy is transferred into dimorphos
[deleted] t1_jaj4yeu wrote
dern_the_hermit t1_jaj4p4r wrote
Reply to comment by FlingingGoronGonads in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
It's just bonkers to suggest observatories can't observe because a portion of some pictures is lost.
dern_the_hermit t1_jaj4e2t wrote
Reply to comment by Goregue in Satellite Constellations Are an Existential Threat for Astronomy by ChieftainMcLeland
> Why are you so keen to downplay the effects of these satellites constellations
Why are YOU so keen on exaggerating the effects? An "existential threat" means astronomy cannot happen, not "every third ultra-wide image loses a few pixels to a satellite".
mistaekNot t1_jaj4cfi wrote
Reply to comment by questioillustro in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
there is more than enough money in the world to spend both on real and unreal problems. the real problem is wealth distribution / inequality… tax the rich!
bgplsa t1_jaj46tz wrote
Reply to comment by ferrettt55 in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
THIS !!! ^ ^ ^ government and academic employees who spend money exactly like private employees on food, housing, entertainment, etc aren’t burning that money for heat, it hasn’t gone anywhere except to support people trogs don’t like.
SirLauncelot t1_jajdmou wrote
Reply to comment by Embite in NASA’s DART data validates kinetic impact as planetary defense method | DART altered the orbit of the asteroid moonlet Dimorphos by 33 minutes by mepper
If it bounces off, that means a lot of the energy was reflected back. If it takes greater time to sink into the asteroid, more energy is transferred.