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aRandomFox-II t1_jc7s7k6 wrote
Reply to comment by JayR_97 in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
Or disassemble it and bring it back to recycle the parts/materials rather than let it all burn up in the atmosphere.
Chairboy t1_jc7s2la wrote
Reply to comment by BufferTheOverflow in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
Seeing as how they'll be dropping it into Point Nemo, that would be a tricky thing to determine.
MrGhris t1_jc7s0ao wrote
Reply to comment by not_that_planet in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
I mean, just create a leak opposite to the side you want to go and bobs your drunk uncle
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Reply to comment by Acornelectron in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
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DevilsRefugee OP t1_jc7rzxm wrote
Reply to comment by JayR_97 in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
I think we should, or at least into cislunar space to act as a stepping stone to lunar gateway.
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Reply to comment by AnotherPersonsReddit in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
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JayR_97 t1_jc7rkdr wrote
Reply to comment by Ratstail91 in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
Yeah, it 100% should be preserved if we can
Pharisaeus t1_jc7rbal wrote
Reply to comment by fernibble in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
This is because atmosphere does most of the job, you just need to drop the perigee low enough.
Consider that the Space Shuttle had around 300 m/s of delta-v available for their orbital operations. Deorbit burn of visiting spacecraft to the ISS are around 130-150 m/s.
JayR_97 t1_jc7r97l wrote
Couldn't we just boost it to a safe orbit? Seems a shame to just burn it up
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Reply to comment by Omgninjas in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
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drc84 t1_jc7qzpm wrote
I like to think that a deorbit tug is when you get a hand job as you are coming back from a long space mission.
rocketsocks t1_jc7pahe wrote
I really hope we don't half-ass a transition from the ISS to the next generation of space stations. One of the best things about the ISS currently is that every crew has a roughly 3 month overlap with the previous crew, which allows a tremendous amount of transfer of knowledge. That's continued for about two decades, it'd be a shame to let that operational expertise die.
not_that_planet t1_jc7oqx4 wrote
Reply to comment by Raspberry-Famous in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
Indeed. If NASA accepts (is allowed to accept???) this as a project, this will be a big deal.
I'm not going to say propulsion in space is easy, but it is relatively straightforward. Getting into and out of orbit is something we really aren't very good at.
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Reply to comment by Ratstail91 in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
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LukeNukeEm243 t1_jc7oitd wrote
Reply to comment by IrishRage42 in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
Axiom is planning to use the ISS as a starting point for their new space station. Axiom's first module is planned to launch in late 2025 and will dock to the forward port of the Harmony module of the ISS. The second, third, and fourth modules are planned to launch in 2026, 2027 and 2028 respectively. Then the Axiom segment will separate from the ISS and become its own modular space station.
AnotherPersonsReddit t1_jc7nbjk wrote
Reply to comment by SlavaUkrainiFTW in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
Nah, I'd rather a moon base for that.
fernibble t1_jc7n8tp wrote
> The deorbit vehicle shall be capable of providing at least 47 m/s of delta-v for the ISS at 450,000 kg mass.
Very interesting that only 47 m/s of delta-v, at a minimum, is needed. The orbital speed of the ISS is about 7660 m/s.
mrscott197xv1k t1_jc7n7tl wrote
Reply to comment by ImpulseAfterthought in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
I was thinking of ksp also.
After a few high speed orbital collisions I build alot of de orbit tugs to keep things clean up there.
Ape_Togetha_Strong t1_jc7n4yd wrote
Reply to comment by YawnTractor_1756 in In defence of dark energy | Nobel Laureate and dark matter pioneer James Peebles answers critics of dark energy. by IAI_Admin
That's not manipulative. It's reality.
>Matter" means something objectively detectable made of physical particles which you're able to interact with.
No it doesn't. And you don't get to decide that it does. But it does tell you something about the way "dark matter" is expected to behave based on observation. So does the "energy" in dark energy. These words are meaningful within the context, although like with all things in physics, words will always fail to convey a concept based on math, because they're meant as labels for things you are already informed about, not as a way to convey understanding.
the_JerrBear t1_jc7n19a wrote
Reply to comment by YawnTractor_1756 in In defence of dark energy | Nobel Laureate and dark matter pioneer James Peebles answers critics of dark energy. by IAI_Admin
yes, the bit where he says that no evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist is frankly embarrassing
Acornelectron t1_jc7mhhm wrote
Reply to comment by urmomaisjabbathehutt in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
Like pirate radio stations on abandoned oil platforms in the 70’s.
maxcorrice t1_jc7m1go wrote
Reply to comment by SwerdnaJack in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
It takes a lot of delta V to do it, definitely not impossible but best bet would be to keep a schedule similar to the current one but the boosts go for much longer to get it into a slightly higher orbit each time, it’ll cost less total but for longer and it’ll give us time to get better more efficient engines, or it could be used as a testbed for things like ion engines where they have low thrust but high efficiency
Omgninjas t1_jc7lt1b wrote
Reply to comment by goatasaurusrex in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
I mean if the two main characters didn't have the emotional expressions of a chunk of wood then it probably would have been better.
the_JerrBear t1_jc7ls2o wrote
Reply to In defence of dark energy | Nobel Laureate and dark matter pioneer James Peebles answers critics of dark energy. by IAI_Admin
these are some frustratingly weak arguments from a nobel laureate. I wonder if that comes with the "Albert Einstein Professor Emeritus" title
RollinThundaga t1_jc7scwh wrote
Reply to comment by Omgninjas in NASA wants new 'deorbit tug' to bring space station down in 2030 by DevilsRefugee
I dunno, his stale-bread playboy attitude made me enjoy the dog attack scene.