So is your argument that he’s going to get hurt, or that he’s unproven? First you said he’s unproven, now you seem to be saying he’s proven but it isn’t sustainable? Kind of hard to have a debate when the goalposts keep moving…

His throwing yards in his best year would’ve made him the 10th worst in passing this year. They know the rushing can’t last as he’s already having injury issues. People don’t get healthier with age unless they’re named Tom.

I don’t see how you can look at his 2019 and 2020 seasons and draw this conclusion.

Risky investment? Sure, but to say he has no track record of success in running and throwing while staying healthy doesn’t hold merit

I don't like this one bit.

By looking at guaranteed money, Derek Carr essentially got a 2 year/$60M contract (though it's $70M if he's on the roster next March). Geno Smith got a 2 year/$40M contract, though in fairness this could balloon up if he hits the incentives to between $25M and $35M per season.

Daniel Jones essentially got a 2 year, $80M contract. He is not that much better than Geno that he should be doubling his salary. Geno was an MVP candidate for most of the year. He really had the Giants by the balls considering they were forced to work something out with either him or Saquon, and now the team that was already devoid of talent in several places is going to be even more hamstrung. Part of me wishes they just let him walk...

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As a West Virginian, I never followed someone in college that slung the ball around the field like Geno. So glad he got a real chance with a good organization.

He’s so overrated for the drama he’s had surrounded his contract the last year. His been mediocre ever since winning the mvp in 2019. Not to mention he’s injury prone and likely will have a precipitous drop in production as he she’s due to his playing style.

Yeah on a really good contract toom. With a good draft the Seahawks will be ready for a sb run

He’s coming to ATL then getting immediately injured

Something I didn't think I'd be saying a year ago: "Damn, as Seahawks fan, I am glad we got Geno locked up for at least three years."

A team would be incredibly stupid to give him a fully guaranteed contract at this point. He's yet to put together 1 full season that showcases his arm AND his legs without getting hurt. I truly think that he knows he's not going to be able to fulfill a contract that's based on his longevity.

Edit: His most productive year was 2019 when he threw for 3107 yards, and ran for 1200. That’s impressive, but hasn’t come close to those numbers since, and that’s kinda the point.

I feel like they probably want him to sign elsewhere and get the two first round picks

Interesting. This morning saw several folks saying there's no way they use the nonexclusive tag.

Curious how it goes

• The Ravens used the nonexclusive tag on Jackson, sources told ESPN. With the Ravens using the nonexclusive tag, Jackson can engage in contract talks with other teams. If Jackson signs an offer sheet with another team, Baltimore has the right to match the offer to keep him or take two first-round picks as compensation. The nonexclusive tag -- which will pay Jackson $32 million this season -- is less expensive than the exclusive one (projected at $45 million), which would have allowed the Ravens to control his rights this year.

To me, it’s about the load that Cam carried in Charlotte. Dude broke down from all those inside runs. While Lamar arguably takes fewer hits per game than Cam, I maintain that a QB who leads the team in rushing for more than a quarter here and there is a QB who will break down sooner rather than later. Lamar is probably aware of this, which is the most likely explanation for his contract demands: he knows there won’t be a third contract and he may not even survive his second contract, so guaranteed money is much more important.

I do remember hearing that.

I get it what you’re saying tho. As someone who sports gambles it doesn’t really bother me if an athlete does bc I doubt the winnings they would take from “throwing games” or something would be bigger than their actual paycheck. However because it’s such a grey area and I imagine pretty hard to regulate and enforce, I can empathize why professional sports leagues would not allow it at all and be so harsh about it.

I guess I just don't care about athletes gambling, as long as they're not involved in the game. It feels a bit outdated to be so harshly against it.

And to an extent, even if they are in the game. There's a famous story of Matt Hasselbeck benching himself in his fantasy league and then he threw 4 touchdowns.

Idk if I feel it’s overkill or not. Like I understand what you’re saying but it’s not crazy to expect adults to not gamble even when your employer advertises for it.

I hear that Pete Rose is looking to talk to Ridley's lawyer now.

Yeah he knew, he didn't complain about it.

But to have all those ads and revenue specifically from gambling, and even sportscasters talking about point spreads on air now....

It's overkill. People beat their wives and get less reprimanded.

But this isn’t that. Athletes gambling on their own sport clearly approaches some ethical boundaries and these dudes are lectured every year about what they can do and what happens if they break the rules. Idk I just don’t think his punishment was that bad considering who knew full well what could happen if he’s caught.

When the rules are stupid and hypocritical you can feel bad for a guy not just breaking them but also being punished pretty harshly for it.

Imagine you got a $5000 fine for jaywalking, or something.

Oh right. But in any event even if he won he was going to drop.

He did not win Wimbledon in 2022 (just made it to SF), but your point still makes sense

I’m curious if all the downvotes are because of perceived bad taste (I always neglect to add the /s) or because I blatantly stole a 25 year old Jim Rome joke