No, because I think they will be good enough with Daboll and Jones. I think there are a lot of people dogging Jones and this contract and this is the silver lining if they really believe the contract is as bad as they think. All this talk about wasting money on Jones, but the real problems are overpaying a RB, the wasted money on Golladay, and lack of receiving weapons.

So, no Jets?

To be fair, it's 2023, not 2016.

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With the absolute clown show that the Giants have had at the coaching position... between McAdoo and Shurmur and Judge (and coordinators like Jason Garrett!?!?) ... given Daboll's success and winning coach of the year and all that, do you really think there is any chance they'd move on from here in the next 1-2 years?

>Is there a team that would’ve paid even $120mil / 4 for him?

You're asking the wrong question, which you already answered by saying you're negotiating against yourselves. The real question is, who were the Giants going to sign instead? There is no way the media and fans let NYG get away with signing any other FA QB to a playoff team on the rise.

This contract isn't as bad as it sounds. They can still draft his replacement in a later round and be ready in 2-3 years. If you look at the QBs making less than 40m, the only players I would pick over Jones are due for even bigger paydays and their teams aren't letting them go.

Jones is their only option and he is now married to Daboll. If the NYG suck next year or the year after, you move on from both and let your new coach draft his guy. If they succeed, then you don't care about the money.

$160m and $82m guaranteed for a guy who threw 15 TDs in 16 games last season!

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And he’s a dipshit anti-vaxxer.

I mean Aaron did pretty good with rookies

Only guy everyone thinks doesn’t need a wr because he can run. The Lamar hate getting out of hand honestly

That's what a Duke education gets you.

No, just think he’s overrated by Ravens fans. Coasting off of one amazing season. He seems like a good guy, but I don’t think he’s handling this situation well (not saying he is wrong for trying to get as much money for himself and his family as possible, just that he might end up getting less than he would have if he played the situation differently).

In 2016 Carr finished 3rd in the MVP voting, DJ has never been anywhere close to that level. But hey respect for owning your bias, I’m a Washington fan so I probably got some opposite bias going on in me haha

Ok

He had the exact same passer rating this year as last year, 1 less td, and played less games. Idk where you think he fell off

The business ramifications of this are interesting. Lamar gets to negotiate his value with other teams. Even if he doesn’t sign this year, he can gauge his value to the league. Baltimore gets to see how the league values him as well.

On top of that, Baltimore can pay him way less this season. I wonder if Lamar would prefer this tag or Exclusive? If that happens, he can’t shop around

You just hate Lamar. Lol

Allen falling off to huh?

Jones has been more accurate with less weapons and has a running game which Carr doesn’t. Yes, I think Jones is better than Carr but I’m also a Giants fan so there’s obviously some bias in me

I'd say Carr is like 12th best in the league. Jones MIGHT be 20th.

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Better than Carr???

As a Giants fan, I also don’t like this deal at this price, but Danny Dimes is better than both Geno and Carr

What annoys me about this deal is that we were essentially negotiating against ourselves and still somehow ended up paying top of the market.

I don’t follow the news that heavily so I’m not sure what that market was for DD but I doubt any team would’ve paid him anywhere close to this amount so why did we? Is there a team that would’ve paid even $120mil / 4 for him?

Unfortunately it’s a bit of both. I think we’ve seen the best that he can do, and he’s only fallen off since then AND he’s now getting injured. Guarantee money is crazy for guy like him