Recent comments in /f/springfieldMO

External_Staff_300 t1_j445qj1 wrote

Pit Bulls aren't the problem. Dobermans were not the problem. Rottweiler's were not the problem. No matter what breed they want to blame next, that's not the problem.

Small breeds attack far more often (look up the statistics) but we don't hear about that nearly as much.

The problem is idiot owners. People who don't properly train or socialize their dogs. People who don't pay attention to their dog's behavior and mood. People who have no right ever owning anything more dangerous or complicated than a goldfish.

Yes, occasionally a dog lashes out. But in almost every case there were warning signs that the handler (owner, dog walker, petsitter, etc) ignored. Whether the dog was sick, injured, stressed...

Know the animal in your care or don't have an animal in your care. The owner, or her brother in this case, should be prosecuted for negligence. Pure and simple.

Blame the person, not the breed.

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HarryTheHangryHippo t1_j441vex wrote

What good would a bill that bans these dogs do? There are already restrictions in place inside of green county. She did not have the dogs properly vaccinated. I didn't see any say of her actually having the dogs registered. And they were also not neutered. Unfortunately none of these things would have necessarily changed this situation whatsoever. Having the dogs neutered might have helped but it's no guarantee. The owner was not the one that let the dogs out. Unfortunately we are unsure if there was a fenced in yard or not. Which if I am not mistaken is also required by greene county when registering this breed. All of this goes to show that even with rules and regulations in place there are not always people that follow them. Banning the dogs is not necessarily going to fix any of this, as the same people that are not following the likely won't follow a complete ban. There's not really a good way to monitor a ban like that.

In my opinion the problem lies much much deeper. I'd be happy to post why I think this if people are interested.

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feralfantastic t1_j43yl5h wrote

She failed to vaccinate them for rabies. And defended them as being well behaved. She should not own dogs, and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, and maybe a bill to ban the breed should be named after her. No part of this situation is not her fault. Did her brother force her to let him watch the dogs at gunpoint?

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Several_Attorney5642 t1_j43y5rs wrote

Reply to comment by aujii11 in A happy ending?! by Punnchy

Exactly. I don’t feel that he “made it right”. He wrote paragraphs making himself look like some kind of hero for doing the most basic thing possible. He didn’t even round the amount up LoL.

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pile_of_holes t1_j43y0uu wrote

Failure to register them when city ordinance calls for it isn’t wrong? Failure to neuter (while not illegal) is certainly a wrong from a responsible pet ownership perspective, along with failure to have an outdoor space capable of containing two large dogs.

Alongside the failure to do the most basic thing, getting your dog vaccinated for rabies, these things are pretty damning to me. Doesn’t matter who let them out the door.

Edit: typos.

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Several_Attorney5642 t1_j43xq0v wrote

Ugh. He’s still talking. Ironic that it’s about not talking about HIS family. The MO Welcome page run by Greg B. has set him up to get sooooo much publicity there. Greg must get some good perks.

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feralfantastic t1_j43wpib wrote

It’s been good for what it is. Last downtime on record was 12/26. Not solid downtime, but 10-12 instances throughout the day. Appears to be a predictable anomaly connected with staff being out for the holidays.

Speed is generally as advertised, though difficult to accurately measure.

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vearson26 t1_j43qycv wrote

We lived out in the country and had to go stay with my grandma for 2 weeks because she still had heat. My gf was with us when it hit, so she ended up being trapped with us for most of that time as well. Had to wake up early one morning to rush all over town and try to find a generator to keep our pipes at home from freezing.

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OmniFella t1_j43pu9z wrote

If you're gonna have dogs like that, they need to be trained. You don't keep animals with raw instincts like that without training them to self-regulate. 20 bucks says they were completely untrained and considered their "territory" to be wherever the hell they were at any given moment unless calmed by their owner. Without the owner, anyone in view of those dogs were incorrectly considered "trespassers" by them. She's not a dumb bitch for having them. She's a dumb bitch for not training them. They're about half a step away from being ferral dogs at that point.

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