Recent comments in /f/springfieldMO

feralfantastic t1_j44fm9r wrote

No. She hasn’t. She should be in jail. She isn’t.

If regulations aren’t working, you change the regulations, or you step up enforcement, or both.

These animals are too fragile to be owned by people that cannot manage them. You should need a license to own them, should not be allowed to have fertile ones without paying a substantial annual fee, and the fines associated with failing to follow this should be ruinously expensive or result in the death of the animal in question. This should eliminate the breed over time, or keep it in the hands of people that can control it best.

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HarryTheHangryHippo t1_j44fem4 wrote

There are so many other breeds that are very prey driven as well. A prey driven dog only becomes a problem without proper training and education on the owners end. Why do you think they are monsters? They are some of the most loving, loyal, and affectionate dogs. I do not own a pit bull/mix or anything close to them. I'm just trying to help people see from another side. Too many people just jump on the "monster" wagon in my opinion.

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External_Staff_300 t1_j44eiur wrote

You don't know animals and certainly don't know pitbulls.

Did the dogs let themselves out? Did the dogs neglect to train themselves? Did the dogs neglect to socialize themselves? Did the dogs forget to make a vet appointment for proper vaccination?

No. All of that was the responsibility of the owner. Blame the owner.

I work maintenance in apartments. I'm around dogs, pits too, all day every day. Have been for years. Never seen a vicious one that didn't have an absolute idiot for an owner. And that goes for any breed of dog, cat, gerbal, ferret, or any other pet.

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HarryTheHangryHippo t1_j44e7mb wrote

It goes back to again an matter of training. And bad dog owners. We already have regulations in place for this breed. And people are not following them. If these regulations would be enforced outside of only when things like this happen it might help. But if they aren't following the regulations now, what's stopping them from not following a ban? This woman has already been humiliated has she not?

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feralfantastic t1_j44cvgx wrote

What would a bill that bans the breed do?

Reduce the number of dangerous dogs over time, humiliate the person singly responsible for doing school-shooting damage to an elementary school and risking secondary fatalities by failing to get them their rabies shots.

We don’t need guarantees that a cure would prevent the harm it’s trying to address, just a reasonable calculation.

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Silhouettesmiled t1_j44cv4p wrote

IT'S THE BREED TOO!!! PITBULLS ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM! Open your eyes. This shit breed has already killed many people this year and the year has hardly started. Small breeds do NOT do nearly the amount of damage like this shit breed does. Why do you think pitbulls are used in dog fights??! That's what they are bred to do! Fuck it's even in their name! PITBULL

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springfieldmo_17 t1_j44cp3h wrote

The girl with the “severe leg injury” was innocently playing 4-square when the white dog bit her leg. She then ran, and the dog attacked her again biting her and bringing her to the ground and dragging her on the ground before a teacher bravely came and started beating the dog with a hydroflask. The girl ended up with 48 stitches and bite marks that were so deep you could see her bone from her inner thigh.

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Television_Wise t1_j44aqny wrote

It seemed pretty obviously a joke/vent post. There aren't dogs large enough to recreate what those children went through when you consider size ratio and how it impacts damage and terror.

I think it's pretty common (and harmless) for people to wish someone who does harm could get an equal measure of that harm back. What's bizarre to me is taking someone seriously on this and getting angry at them.

Children in our community were permanently scarred, damaged, and traumatized. It's natural to be angry and need to vent or wish for justice/just desserts.

Once again: wishing out of anger is not the same as supporting the fall of rule of law, or whatever.

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HarryTheHangryHippo t1_j449fv9 wrote

Idiot owners is correct. Idiot breed is not. They are a very intelligent and loyal dogs. Little dogs don't have the physical ability to maul/kill people. That doesn't mean they don't attack/bite people frequently. And this generally comes down to the fact that people see them as "cute little babies that require no training". All dogs were wild at one point, and people have to remember that. No matter how long they've been kept as companions and domesticated things can happen. People need to do their own due diligence with training, as well as researching the type of dog they are getting before they get them. Yes we have regulations in place inside of Greene county because bully breeds as they were bred for many many years will not let go if they latch on. I don't disagree with the regulations, but if owners would actually abide by them we wouldn't have ever had this problem. Or if people would be good and intelligent dog owners we wouldn't have this problem.

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HarryTheHangryHippo t1_j446pfw wrote

To add to this, many of the kids likely ran the other direction screaming bloody murder. This would have quickly triggered the dogs prey drive. It should have never been a problem if the owner/brother had them properly confined within the regulations I put in a previous comment. Or if they would have been on a leash and also had a muzzle on like is required by the regulations but nobody ever follows.

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matramepapi t1_j446o74 wrote

Oh my god. Small breeds don’t maul and kill people. Pit bulls absolutely are the problem. Literally bred for game/dogfighting with such a high prey drive that blunt force and mace can’t detach its jaw. The problem is the idiot owners AND the idiot breed. These dogs are ticking time bombs.

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HarryTheHangryHippo t1_j445su9 wrote

https://library.municode.com/mo/springfield/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIICO_CH18AN_ARTIIDOCAFE_DIV3PRPIBUDO_S18-95PRPIBUDO

This is a link to the regulations starting at Sec 18-95. And inside of Sec 18-98 (number 5) there is a link to what is considered confined under subsection 18-59.1

It's a lot to read but there are very many "rules" instated that I see broken every single day. Putting a full ban on these dogs I don't personally will solve the issue whatsoever.

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