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Iron_Worker_ t1_j4ddh81 wrote

Reply to comment by kjchoi55 in shameless repost. by discodeathsquad

“The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying, This is mine, and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not anyone have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows, “Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.” – Jean-Jacques Rousseau

By what mad reasoning have you determined that poverty is the default state of man? Money and debt are made up things. They literally aren't real! My god man, stop and think with your own mind for a moment!

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kjchoi55 t1_j4dcnzp wrote

Reply to comment by the_honeyman in shameless repost. by discodeathsquad

This is incorrect. There are many problems in the US that are falsely attributed to capitalism. Most of which really stem from abuse of our money. True capitalism (competition) drives prices down.

Constant inflating of the money supply, crony capitalism, the cantillion effect, and the perverse incentives that arise from our government having a monopoly on money are the real culprits. There are certainly real problems that people should be complaining about, but blaming them on capitalism is misguided.

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Iron_Worker_ t1_j4dc75v wrote

Reply to comment by kjchoi55 in shameless repost. by discodeathsquad

How do you equate homelessness with the threat of failure? People fail at all kinds of things all the time without becoming destitute. Eliminating the threat of homelessness is not only possible, it's necessary to a morally evolved society. It seems like you just never put any real thought into the issue and you're just blindly defending a system that not only doesn't serve you (unless you're rich), but enslaves you. Wake up man.

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kjchoi55 t1_j4dak0d wrote

Reply to comment by Iron_Worker_ in shameless repost. by discodeathsquad

Seems unreasonable to think you can eliminate the threat of homelessness. That's like saying you can eliminate the threat of failure. You can't remove competition from life. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system has it not? Capitalism might not be perfect, but if a utopia is what you're looking for then you'll forever be lost.

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kjchoi55 t1_j4d8k88 wrote

What causes poverty? Nothing. It's the original state, the default and starting point. The real question is, what causes prosperity.

Capitalism gets blamed for all kinds of things in error.

If you think there aren't poor people under systems other than capitalism then you're just uninformed.

In other systems everyone is poor so I mean pick your poison.

Nothing beats free markets.

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Creepy-Explorer2390 t1_j4d7omc wrote

Reply to comment by the_honeyman in shameless repost. by discodeathsquad

This is just outside my fence! This is where my house is. This is not a bunch of businesses. I had homeless high on drugs walk in my front yard. I hear them yelling outside. I called the police a few times. My kids can’t play outside. And this is not downtown Sacramento. That is much worse. Whole tent cities…and same for every off ramp on highways. You cannot compare missouri to California. The moment you drive out of California it’s like a different country.

PROOF HERE

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RayMan89477 t1_j4d5lph wrote

Honestly I have a few controversial opinions on how to fix the homeless issue but the fine and jail time seems silly. How would they pay? Jail is just a free meal and bed and it will overcrowd the jails. Also some of the homeless want to be homeless, others have severe mental issues. Then you have the fake homeless begging for money. I don't think the city wants to do to actually fix the problem. So they try to treat and not cure the problem

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