Recent comments in /f/springfieldMO

feralfantastic t1_j4x2eut wrote

I dunno, you’d need to manage to truly capture the essence of Springfield, but how many times have you come across a mangy methed-out Canada goose with a used condom on its head that is too busy attacking you to be properly photographed?

For me, the answer is three time in the last month.

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genmischief t1_j4x1sr5 wrote

>other ideologies hostile to our values as a nation.

You hit on something there. This is entirely perspective based.

You see, I think fascists, anti-fascists, extreme right and left... their ALL morons.

We beat the nazi's. They aren't back. The allies beat them SO BADLY that they are STILL IN HIDING in Brazil, dying off. What we have in the US, those aren't NAZIs. I mean, they say they are NAZI's but the actual NAZIs would have shot them on sight. First... we had the brownshirts. People who preyed upon the people of the time and either allied them up, or targeted them.

Do you know where the NAZIs came from? We got the brownshirts, then crystalnacht, and then finally the National Socialist Workers Party who lead to a military power through petty payback and overreaching intolerance from the closure of WW1.

The Treaty of Versais. Germany got squeezed for EVERY THING THEY COULD GET OUT OF THEM. It created a nation of people who couldnt afford housing, decent educations, and highly volitle uncertain futures. Then add to that all of the single parent households after their young men and husbands died in the trenches of France to American, French, and English forces. (by the way, does this sound familiar at all? Single parent homes, rampant inequality, low wages and sketchy education?)

So these people and their position created by the war and the treaty, used that treaty as a rallying cry. Proud people who needed something to beleive in and be a part of, a way to rebuild. I think you probably know the rest worked out... Dont forget ole hitler was the Time magazine Man of the Year at one point. ;)

(if your inclined to pay the money, this is a FANTASTIC product which discusses a great deal of that history)

Now, NEO-Nazis.... what we have are a bunch of nonces who THINK they are NAZIs, but are ineffectual, unpalatable, and mostly irreedemable. They are problematic, and can do harm on a small scale, but for the most part they are a symptom of the times. There is no WAY these guys will ever form a military, a viable political party (or coop one), or an anyway affect the world in a meaningful way as an organzation. Anyone who is smart enough to actually start organzign something at that scale is going to be smart enough to understand how tragically flawed that idelogical path really is.

Domestic Terrorism, of course, is a whole different animal where one person can appear as much more. But I digress, different topic, different time. :)

Does any of this help illustrate why A:) I'm, sick to death of the whole thing and B:) I find the idea of peeling a sticker being my American duty to be utterly laughable?

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TapdotWater t1_j4wze85 wrote

I didn't say tearing down a sticker would make a difference, I said it is your duty as an American citizen to always act against nazism and other ideologies hostile to our values and political system. That means tearing down stickers, protesting & counter protesting, voting, and if it comes down to it, exercising your 2nd Amendment Rights to their fullest extent to ensure the continuation of Democracy.

Or, you can sit back and let the rest of us do it--thats perfectly fine, you don't want to stick your neck out and do something with yourself, I get it. That's risky. It's much safer to be apathetic, to be acted upon by the world. Carry on as you will, but you shouldn't try and convince other people that the Coward's Lifestyle is superior. At best, you just come off as looking like a boring moderate who just repeats talking points you've picked up on NPR, and not a lot of people find folk like that interesting.

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-Valued_Customer- t1_j4wy1yv wrote

My AOS is philosophy, whereas it sounds like you’re wanting to get into the weeds of history. I know a bit about that, of course, but rather than give you a spotty and sub-Wikipedia recounting of names and dates, I’d feel more comfortable/less embarrassed directing you toward actual historians like Mark Bray, whose Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook came to prominence a few years back for obvious reasons.

It would probably be more productive for me to clarify some things that I think may have been misunderstood: I never said that it’s always and only been the radical Left who “saves the day.” Far from it, in fact: they usually fail! And in some cases, far-left organizations and parties unwittingly assist fascists in seizing power, as the German Communist Party did in the Weimar years by refusing to go into coalition with the more moderate Social Democrats (you can always count on a communist to do the wrong thing for the right reasons).

However, when it comes to taking to the streets to protect communities directly and confront fascists and their propaganda face-to-face, it has practically always been the far left—and anarchists in particular—that has stepped up to the plate. Think about it: when's the last time you saw a group of liberals get in a street fight with fascists? I am certain it's happened before, but there's a reason they're not known for it.

I suspect the reason liberals tend to be largely ineffective against fascism at a certain point is because an ascendant fascist party isn't really possible without institutions that have been significantly weakened or hijacked by bad actors. Since liberals by definition operate within and through those institutions, they are naturally going to be ineffective as fascists amass power.

As for your point about totalitarianism being the Big Bad of the 20th century, I would probably agree in a very limited and provisional sense; the problem with that diagnosis is that "totalitarianism" isn't well-defined. It seems to me that capitalism is every bit as "total" as Soviet communism was, in that it's impossible to live one's life outside of it if you live in the US or any other Western liberal democracy. Like Soviet state socialism, it dictates every facet of life, from who gets what goods (fry cooks ain't driving Teslas) to who gets to live and die (thanks, American imperialism, criminal justice system, and healthcare!). However, because it's "the market" that decides this and not some Soviet apparatchick, it's "better." Maybe so! But better or not, it's not any less omnipresent and inescapable for it.

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genmischief t1_j4wy0o7 wrote

You're literally saying removing a sticker will make a difference. How can you come to that conclusion? I suppose you then would advocate to slather OTHER stickers you agree with on more private property?

In the end, the guy who owns the property is the one left with everything covered in stickers. Thats the only change that will happen.

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citizen8616 t1_j4wxxhb wrote

Hey, if this is considered off-topic mods feel free to take down. I recently took a job at a Uniform warehouse on N Bolivar. I quit after about two months. My Supervisor and coworkers said hateful things about minorities and LGBTQ. It took place in front of Managers who did nothing to stop it.

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blitzalchemy t1_j4wrwbh wrote

Does anyone know when starlink will be opening up to the area more?

Im stuck out in the boonies nearby and its about my only option aside from centurylink but says it isnt available yet. I know from past posts that some people already have it and they say the service is decent.

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Love-Being-Empty t1_j4wlj55 wrote

Death threats? My goodness! No need for that. Have you heard of any word if they are going to be installing more? Cousin lives on a busy road and she does not allow her daughter to play in the front yard. People treat her road like they are trying out for the new fast and furious.

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