Recent comments in /f/springfieldMO

robzilla71173 t1_j4xj6ib wrote

I spent the first decade of my career in one of the factories in the area. Our practice was to bring in new hires as temps from an agency, and then we could see how they did for a few weeks and offer permanent jobs with full benefits to the ones that seemed to click at the work. I would assume we weren't the only place that did this.

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Trixxxxxi t1_j4xidxr wrote

How did you not know the Greyhound was closed if you worked there as of a week ago? Why make a fake post to see what people's opinions on that Walmart were?

Sounds like more bullshit.

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Lost-Can-4218 OP t1_j4xfnzu wrote

Reply to comment by Dbol504 in Brosnan Security by Lost-Can-4218

The people they hire to catch shop lifters would be the asset protection people. Who actually are just the regular employees with duel roles. They maybe are out on the floor as secret shoppers four hours a day other times they're at a cash register,pulling a pallet jack and stocking shelves.

Brosnan who has no contractual authority to accost potential shop lifters, but only provide a visual deterrence, yet are scapegoated by Walmart asset protection all the time. You're pretty much paid to exist in the store 12 hours a day.

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dhrisc t1_j4xfkyn wrote

This is all exactly what id expect, and probably has parallels throughout the city. The working poor and totally indigent are all wallowing in the same mire. I have not really heard anything good about any private security in general here, outside of occasionally there is an individual who is good. It is all so often bigger then an individuals actions can really sway or fundamentally change, being open and public goes along way. I dont think the avg person knows how often folks are oding in public in this city for instance, we can act like its a distant problem if we arent facing it, same thing with the absurd transphobia and racism u mentioned.

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Dbol504 t1_j4xelcg wrote

I stopped shopping at Walmart because they want to pay more people to catch people stealing rather than have them as cashiers that would prevent shrinkage at the self checkouts. Started exclusively shopping at Price Cutters. Prices aren’t that much more and I don’t feel like a criminal being watched all over the store.

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Lost-Can-4218 OP t1_j4xdzvy wrote

Reply to comment by LifeRocks114 in Brosnan Security by Lost-Can-4218

Well, the compliant I filed to Walmart lead to my termination. The guy threatening some potential troublemaker. That shooting in Virginia by a Walmart manager was still on my mind. Due to being unarmed and not a peace officer made me feel very out in the cold and inept in such a situation.

I did file a more detailed with Brosnan that included conflict of interest relationships with subordinates, harassment from staff and neglect by management.

Brosnan is run by Patrick Brosnan who is Fox News correspondent. The fact that unarmed Walmart security is the lowest rung of the Brosnan pecking order I think they'd just let this burn itself out as long as Walmart keeps the contract.

I'm familiar with HR policies. They have zero obligation to maintain records and are encouraged to destroy them to avoid and kind of court order discovery.

I do have text message conversations with Frank where he's rude and condescending. He seemed to text everyone on a daily basis to bring them up to speed but only texted me maybe once a week if that.

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N7Manofkent t1_j4xbovj wrote

Dude I don't know what to say about that, but it does seem like the sort of shit I used to put up with back in the UK before I moved here

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LifeRocks114 t1_j4xazhk wrote

Some of this sounds actionable if you have proof (i.e. recordings, emails, texts). Contact an employment lawyer for wrongful termination if you feel like you have a case. I don't know if there's a state advisory board for private security like Brosnan, but if there is-or if there's a larger corporate structure you'd probably want to file a complaint with them. Same for walmart, file a complaint directly to corporate (and if you have proof of your claims, tell them that you have it and you're willing to provide it).

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Jimithyashford t1_j4x4qmd wrote

To the whole top portion of your reply, good context on where you are coming from. I'm no slouch on political philosophy myself, but I find history to be more informative. Political Philosophy is only one ingredient, often times running a distant second or third in importance to other ingredients. History tells us the cake that actually came out of the oven. The end result cake is what actually manifests in reality and actually hurts or helps us, and is what really matters. Not that the philosophy side isn't useful and interesting.

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So, with that in mind, once ounce of historic precedent is worth a 10 pounds of theory and philosophy, at least in my book.

"However, when it comes to taking to the streets to protect communities directly and confront fascists and their propaganda face-to-face, it has practically always been the far left—and anarchists in particular—that has stepped up to the plate."

Again, I simply do not think you are correct on the basic facts.

All of the largest and most effective social demonstrations of the last several generations have involved the far left, sure. Sometimes even had leadership comprised of or at least including the far left, but the effort was carried out by a great many people of varying ideologies.

MLK was arguably among the far left of his day, sure, but the million man march wasn't a million far left radicals. Hell it wasn't even a majority of far left radicals, the participants consisted largely of a mass of somewhat left of center and centrist folks who agreed on that issue, but otherwise likely wildly disagreed on a great many things.

The BLM rallies weren't streets packed with radical anarchists. Radicals were among them sure, but a very large percent of those who attended (not counting as "legitimate" attendees the agitators and miscreants just where to capitalized on the chaos of course), were people who agreed and cared very strongly about THIS issue, but otherwise had a variety of political and ideological leanings.

Since we are talking about the Patriot Front who spun off of other groups in the aftermath of the Unite the Right rally in 2016, let's talk about the counter protest at Unite the Right where that lady got killed. Not a throng of radical anarchist lefties. People of massively varying ideologies, generally left of center, who's common factor was not liking the Alt right.

The same can be said for literally any large scale protesting against some sort of authoritarianism. How about back to the Occupy Wallstreet movements? Disaffected youth mostly, I'd be willing to put $1000 bucks down that if you could dig up a few hundred of the occupy wallstreet protestors as a random sampling and ask them what their political ideology was then, and is now, you'd have a very small percentage self identifying as anarchist, and only somewhat more than average identifying as any variety of far left.

So yeah, in terms of social action against harmful authoritarianism that actually has some efficacy, I think you are flat wrong about there being any particular correlation between participation in that and the "far left".

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But, I am missing a nuance to your point, and I know I am, and I am getting to it. If what you are saying is that if you have a rally where the nazi guys are carrying sonnenrad shields and paramilitary getups and posturing violently, but not actually carrying out any attempted power grab or violence, which group is mostly likely to show up with their own balaclavas and scarves and bike helmets, and posture violent back at them, and potentially get into a street brawl. Then yeah I agree that's probably gonna be your more radical lefty element. But that's also completely worthless and likely actually makes things worse.

If you are talking about the above scenario but the nazis are actually attempting wide spread violence or a power grab, then it will be the actual police and/or armed forces that put a stop to that, not a biker gang of anarchist college kids.

If the nazis have entered congress and slowly taken political power, then the party that will step up to stop them is the moderate element that occupies the opposing caucus, and the voters who elect them. Once again, not the anarchists.

As far as I can tell, there is no level on which the anarchist response is genuinely meaningful or helpful or anything other than hollow chest thumping unless it is allied to a much larger body of the average citizenry.

All we are then left with is "are the anarchist more likely to bluster back at them?" and maybe I'll grant you that, sure, but that's not really saying much.

And I'm not saying anarchists SHOULDN'T oppose Nazis, of course they should, I am just saying that being an anarchist has nothing to do with it, we all should.

And to your point about totalitarianism, I'll try to keep it short. I didn't say totalitarianism, I said authoritarianism. if I were to be more specific, I'd say nationalist populist authoritarianism especially. Even more especially of the brand centered around a key charismatic figure or dynasty.

And to your last point about totalitarianism not being well defined. I'd encourage you not to get hung up on that. None of this is well defined, and in fact it can't be. What is the far left even? Ask some people it means those who want to abolish currency and live in a network of loosely allied kubutzes. Ask some others and the far left means anyone who thinks universal healthcare might be a good idea. What does anarchism even mean? Ask 20 different anarchists at random and you'll get at least 3 or 4 distinct notions.

I have learned through hard conversations that almost all political labels are a sort of fuzzy contextual bell curve. Is that frustrating and inconvenient? Sure, but that's just how it be.

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