Recent comments in /f/springfieldMO

EcoAffinity t1_j89ejue wrote

It's not a "Facebook post", but the direct relay of information provided from the homeless individuals whose belongings were burned to service folks who have boots on the ground every day with these groups and know them as equals and friends.

You are choosing instead to wait to see what the Sheriff's narrative will be concerning these atrocities despite them having a repeated history of such similar acts.

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EcoAffinity t1_j89dmsf wrote

So, you are not believing the claims of the victims until the assailant confirms them. This isn't the first time service providers have been notified by homeless groups that their belongings have been doused in gasoline and set on fire by law enforcement. And we've already had instances this year where the sheriff has illegally destroyed camps without the 24 hr notice required within Springfield limits. Or posting photos from a different raid months ago when releasing a public statement. This sheriff is extremely shady, particularly when it comes to the homeless because the larger public chooses to not support these folks and allows their handling to go unchecked.

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Magnolia_Me t1_j89deok wrote

le sigh here we go.

When you perpetuate misinformation to protect your friends that won't eat expired foods, you're literally encouraging them to throw away food within the dates. Best of luck in your new perspective.

Edit: spell correct "good" to "food"

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Magnolia_Me t1_j89d2xb wrote

When you're ready we can talk about plastic packaging, particularly water bottles. Oh wait. I don't have the time or energy, nor is it my job to explain this to you. I encourage you to leverage a library. Put your hard-earned tax dollars to work.

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Rough-Dust-3926 OP t1_j89cwkn wrote

I think you may be confused. I am buying and eating the "expired" products because others can't bring themselves to do it. I'm begging you, please oh overlord of Springfield, educate me on how proactively reducing waste is actually increasing it!

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CandyBoBandDandy t1_j89cob4 wrote

“It’s not like with people. It’s just more toxic with animals, for dogs just don’t sleep it off that their motion and moving around anxious. This hard to hold them still, very hard to hold them still.”

“I think you should use the same precautions you use with children,” said Brown. “Put the locks on your cabinets, and you do things like that. And you just have to be extra cautious to keep it up because some dogs just get into stuff.”

He's got some good points. Just keep your weed locked and out of reach from your pets. And smoke it outside

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Always_0421 t1_j89ca2k wrote

Ok, the arguably leading moat knowledgeable expert on homelessness in springfield making an unsubstantiated claim, still remains unsubstatiated.

You're reading the skepticism of many here on both sides of the issue.

When people ask for evidence, they aren't asking for an opinion or an appeal to authority, but I suspect you already understand that.

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Always_0421 t1_j89btah wrote

>I do think the Elm Fork John Brown Club down in Austin came up with a repeatable model on how to deal with this kind of behavior.

You must not know Jim Arnott....

Those guys im Austin stopped volunteers from cleaning up a homeless encampment (and they came back at a later date unannounced with traditional police escort and did so at a later date)...these aren't unarmed social workers and volunteers youd be trying to stop.

Here's how it'd go in Greene County (best case scenario)

Police show up. Guys blocking the police. They're told they're obstructing and now trespassing and if they aren't willing to leave they will be arrested and removed. Some leave. Some refuse.

Police arrest those who refuse to leave and sieze their weapons, and then clean up the camp regardless. Give the homeless some extra time to get whatever things they can carry away.

The arrested protestors now have a modest bail to post, a misdemeanor court date, a firearm seized by LE, and will be targeted for future harassment.

We can use our imagination for the worst case scenario; But idk of any scenario in the history of the US where pointing a firearm has ever ended in the favor of the perpetrator.

If you want to change this, you'll have to target the law, not the enforcers of the law.

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Magnolia_Me t1_j89b3tx wrote

But what if the logic to come up with "the numbers" is wrong? You're directly contributing to massive amounts of excessive and unnecessary waste. Please reach out to your local library for resources on anything and everything, including date formatting.

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EcoAffinity t1_j899p38 wrote

Christie Love isn't just "somebody". She's the founder and Pastor of The Connecting Grounds. Many would argue she is the leading knowledgeable expert on homelessness in Springfield, and she and her church are integral to any effective outreach initiatives. Her entire church is for the purpose of service. She led the effort to find other churches and places to open their doors during that insane freeze before Christmas.

She's not making anything up for internet clout. She is a trustworthy leader who lives to serve, particularly for North Springfield.

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Magnolia_Me t1_j89949w wrote

Great, that's super awesome that people believe plastic water bottles existed over 100 years ago, considering the date it was bottled on is listed just above this date. Why on earth would I have any concerns over my community members voting to elect leaders who ultimately decide my right to access reproductive care? No worries here. /s

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