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sgf-guy t1_izvpo49 wrote

Reply to Federal judge convicts man accused of leading hikes without permits in Buffalo National River by Pretending2beme

I will say, there is a wild case going on with the NPS and the NPPA over filming permits. Steve Lehto on YT covered it recently.

I respect the conservation of NPS lands but there does seem to be a recent surge in people/smaller companies building business models based on federal lands that people may not even know laws/rules exist for.

Have the rules/laws…but make it super clear to find from the beginning.

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robzilla71173 t1_izvh340 wrote

Reply to comment by neutral-spectator in Federal judge convicts man accused of leading hikes without permits in Buffalo National River by Pretending2beme

I'm sure there were at least 2 agencies. Sheriff's dept might be who responded to 911, then park service would be involved. Add in maybe some horse riders if they need to get farther down the trail faster, and an ambulance at the trailhead that might just be there to take him to a clearing for a medivac chopper, plus dispatchers, plus support staff, it can add up. It's a difficult place to get in and out of.

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WendyArmbuster t1_izvgjw1 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Federal judge convicts man accused of leading hikes without permits in Buffalo National River by Pretending2beme

Yeah, I thought about that as I typed it, and it felt like gatekeeping even as I said it, but at the same time, it's nice to have to work for something. That particular trail is not an official trail, it's not maintained by the park service, it deliberately didn't have signs directing people to it, and that's why it took so long to find it. They don't really encourage people to hike there.

I've got a ton of other places that are amazing that I know about just by wondering around the woods in the Buffalo River park, and it's nice that they are not overrun by "guides" bringing people to them.

There was a big push to dam the Buffalo at one point, and turn it into a recreational lake like Table Rock. It would absolutely be getting more use that way, but I would argue that use isn't the most important thing about public lands.

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robzilla71173 t1_izvf358 wrote

Reply to comment by blurubi04 in Federal judge convicts man accused of leading hikes without permits in Buffalo National River by Pretending2beme

To be fair I don't see how he could be charged with manslaughter or anything like that. The decedent was an adult with plenty of experience and I assume signed a waiver when he joined the hiking club. The lack of a permit might be the only thing that he could be charged with. But it will be something at least. Remember, Al Capone was convicted of tax evasion.

For a while there was a hiking group in spfd led by a highway patrol guy (who coincidentally got a guy wrongfully convicted of murder years ago). He would have these massive camping weekends to try and sell outdoor goods to yuppies and he'd pull the same stuff. I remember trying to hike another relatively unknown trail and I must've had to stop for 20 carloads of his group in a place that could handle 6 cars at best. I despise big groups on trails. Especially for profit. If someone wants to see the things and places I enjoy I think that's something one should share for free.

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robzilla71173 t1_izvchmo wrote

Reply to The Lord has spoken by Ganrokh

I tried some cashew chicken today. Hk inn was packed so I went to the Cantonese place at chestnut and glenstone. I'm not normally a fan of cashew chicken but that was honestly pretty good.

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Note2thee t1_izurhml wrote

Reply to Looking for good vacation ideas within 3-4 hours of Springfield for roughly a week long vacation. by hikingjoey123

Just you? Go setup camp at Round Springs State Park, and do a multi-day float on the current down to Jack’s fork during the week. If you go before memorial day good chance you’ll have portions of the river all to yourself. Then if you have time to spare, get out your backpack amd go hike and camp up and down the OzarkTrail. Some super nice routes connect in to the Current River park system down there.

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