This is reminding me of a earlier post of someone’s missing brother who had some connection to a goth church

I'm surprised it took this long for something like this to happen. General consensus for dog owners outside city limits is to let their dogs roam free without regard to anyone else. Also doesn't help that the area usually has dogs dumped too.

There are certain breeds that have higher tendencies to be aggressive. I don’t think that all pit bulls are bad but they do have a history of being aggressive. I have been attacked by a chow, a german shepherd, and a shar pei. These breeds just have a higher chance of being aggressive. That’s what they were bred for. There are lots of other breeds that don’t have those characteristics so why not look for a lab or something that doesn’t have those problems? It’s the pet owners that are responsible and they should be the ones getting sued or worse, for making those choices. If you want a dog that has aggressive tendencies you need to be ready for the worse case scenario. I find a pit bull on my property there won’t be a call to the police.

You’ve shown that you know zilch about dogs and have an axe to grind about this particular breed. Bye.

i tired for 2 weeks with support. zero assistance, and oddly most calls had a flipping rooster crowing in the background.

finally got to someone who understood where i was coming from with my tech support background, and all the troubleshooting i had done. tech is supposed to be here tomorrow, but i have a feeling weather will cancel

Just pop by to say some shit? We don't know what happened to him. If he is alive, there are some basic concepts to understand. People who are struggling with self-worth and addiction often don't want to be a burden. This can drive them from both their support group and their will to be a part of society. This is a small part of my attempt to find him.

I'd love to protest a group of these fucks if anyone ever sees them.

Suddenly having flashbacks to my goth high school days in the 90s when I gatekeeped wanna-be goths that only listened to Marilyn Manson and had no idea who the Bauhaus or Sisters of Mercy were.

Eh, I'd be bummed if someone got hurt. They wouldn't see it as a reason to change their religion and start driving on the sabbath. They'd just see it as another way the "world" is against them, and they'll just keep walking on the road with even more assurance that it's their destiny to do so.

Don't send your kids to Burell or Lakeland. They're hellholes

Seems like he doesn't want to be found

First rule of SGC (secret goth church) is we don’t talk about SGC!!!

He was gatekeeping. Tell your friend to continue enjoying the darker things in life however she wants.

Sincerely, A Gen-X Goth

Try rumble pest solutions. They're local. Came to my house for $100

You're showing you have no interest in being objective about how the breed has been selected for hundreds of years, or even how selective breeding works. Yes, there are other breeds used for fighting. Pit bulls are and have always been the premier fighting breed for a reason.

Yes, if they wound up in pounds, they'd be euthanized. Better that than more playground attacks and kids missing faces.

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You’re advocating for a full on ban. Where do you suggest these dogs you don’t want people to own go? Again, you’re arguing that breed is destiny. It isn’t. You’re also showing you don’t know anything about dogs or dog fighting. Yes, pits are used in dog fighting but they’re far from the only breed.

A ban just isn’t a pragmatic solution. This is particularly true in Missouri where we can’t even seem to regulate puppy mills. BSL really doesn’t work, anyway.

Again, you're not wrong.

It's just that punishment after the fact doesn't stop attacks from happening in the first place, which is really what we should be after.

I mean, there's another possible ending to the story. I'm not advocating for it, but I won't be bummed if it happens.

The REAL Goths were conquered by the Byzantine Empire in the 700s and have since died out, so this guy is also a poser.

The breed has, from the 1800s, has been bread for fighting, because their temperament, as a whole, is conducive to shutting down everything but the attack instinct.

This is a breed that was bred for bear fighting, then continued having violent tendencies selected for as people transitioned into dog fighting. If you don't understand that, maybe look more into how selective breeding works.

Also, nowhere did I say "destroy all pit bulls," so you can stop putting words in my mouth. The intent was "ban people from obtaining new pit bulls." Extra insurance and punitive measures for the owner don't do a single thing to prevent kids from getting their faces chewed off by an aggressive breed.

Sounds sus and totally made up. He was probably messing with your friend.

You're a horrible human being.

Sounds like the guy was messing with/trolling your friend, trying to gatekeep the Goth subculture and exclude her from being "a real goth". You and your friend should ignore the fuck out of him.

You realize that tens of thousands of dogs would need to be destroyed? A large majority of which would never harm anyone? Breed is not destiny. For any dog breed. Temperament varies. If you claim every dog of a certain breed is going to act 100% predictable to that breed’s traits, you don’t know shit about dogs.

I feel like the solution is the same as it should be for gun owners. Make people who own potentially problematic breeds carry liability insurance. Give generous discounts for things like fencing, training classes, etc. Have a zero-tolerance policy for biting/attacks. Your dog does that, it gets put down. Like guns, the dogs are not the issue, the owners are. I absolutely guarantee you the dogs involved in this incident gave clear warning signs they were aggressive and it went unaddressed. Shit like this doesn’t happen in a vacuum.