As I said in another thread we had a pile of Macs at work that had activation lock issues and Apple had refused to help. We bought them on the corporate account through the Apple store and they still would do nothing to unlock them. It was ridiculous.

Boeing wasn't using one a couple years ago.

As an Apple MDM expert, this is a ridiculous statement.

We manage iPads and iPhones as well and it also works quite well for us.

Can someone explain what this is?

How is he gonna get a more competitive rate when fucked up the last company? Why reward mediocrity?

He is no Satya Nadella.

My experience is exclusively with iPads. I've found that it's much easier to include erasing in our offboarding process, or to send proof of purchase to Apple for remote unlock.

I primarily use Mosyle, and I find it works very well. And I work with other companies as an IT consultant that have no major problems with Jamf.

No, they cannot. Sometimes they can even wipe the storage using the recovery boot menu, but as soon as the device contacts apple when connected to a network it’s going to prompt for iCloud credentials and not allow any further use without them.

You clearly have zero experience in this area, this is and has been a very well known issue with iPads entering the waste stream for a very long time, and everyone involved knew it was coming to computers as well when Apple announced the T2 chip and how it was going to be integrated with activation lock.

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We manage almost one thousand Macs and haven’t had any issues with Jamf on managing activation lock.

And dealers putting a $6000 “fee” on them because f you that’s why.

The recycler can already do this without Apple's help.

Supply and Demand. People are willing to play an inflated price-tag for them so there is no incentive to drop prices unless an external force (competitor, depression, etc) forces the drop.

From a purely materials standpoint, batteries are the issue. AFAIK, the battery alone in a Tesla is ~$13k mostly due to how expensive the materials (cobalt, nickel, lithium and manganese) are.

Can we get an ugly car discount as well?

Wiping the drives of decommissioned laptops and PCs is an extremely LOW priority for large enterprise IT departments. Not only have those units been depreciated on their corporate taxes, but also spending hours cleaning them up to resell for pennies on the dollar is hardly worth it to a company making billions of dollars.

Apple has been dealing with corporate IT for over 4 decades and is fully aware of this process. Apple even has their own large enterprise IT department, and experiences this, too.

Or these machines were sold to the recycler to be destroyed for security reasons.

Apple already has a database matching devices with their iCloud email addresses that were used, that’s why it’s possible to log in and release the lock on your own devices.

All they need to do is have a web portal where a recycler can submit a list of serials for hardware they have, push an email or notification to the registered account and check if it’s been marked stolen using FindMy and allow an unlock and wipe if everything checks out after a set period of time.

That was the SR-71, not the B-2.

That’s all well and good, but doesn’t change the fact that these perfectly reusable devices are already accumulating and will continue to accumulate in ever increasing mass quantities at recycling depots across the country where there is no possibility to do the ecologically and socially responsible thing and ensure they get a second life as a usable device for someone who isn’t suited to buy brand new.

Rendering mass quantities of usable equipment as at best a token fraction of its raw input material cannot be allowed to be classified as a sustainable practice. Any sustainability labels or accreditations need to be removed from both Apple and any enterprises that demand destruction of depreciated assets if that is to continue. Cut the greenwashing, call it what it is.

I can't believe you're serious right now. You're saying Apple should keep a database on when each computer was locked, and after a certain point automatically erase and unlock that computer.

For all we know the computer would have been in use the whole time and just not connected to the internet. I myself have a computer that's in my storage for one year and I don't want anyone touching it/erasing it. Yes I have back ups but I still dont want that.

When you erase an Apple device it says right there “remove activation lock”. Isn’t that an obvious way to disable it?

If they had done literally nothing, their devices and users would keep getting targeted for theft (obviously they still are, but to a lesser extent)

Yes you are responsible to keep track of your keys. This is true for hundreds of services, and essentially all technical services. This is on a companies IT to properly manage their property. No one else

As do most of the Tories plans

You cant stop it, but you can make it more expensive.

Instead of buying the chips directly China has to set up, or go through intermediaries.

This adds overhead costs and risks. If they get the chips through a Vietnamese intermediary, the US can pressure Vietnam to shut it down or risk being sanctioned as well.