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Just-a-Mandrew t1_j6ocaef wrote

I had this fantasy that big blockbuster movies would have certain generative elements. The essential story parts would be the same but background elements or details could be generative or programmatically targeted to specific audiences. Imagine watching Avatar 3 and each time the forest looks different or different animals are seen. That’s a bad example but you get the point.

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MaoWasaLoser t1_j6o4qhh wrote

> If they gave a shit about environment, they would make this lock removable

It is removable.

Why do so many people on reddit spend their time hating on Apple for shit they don't even do? It's fucking weird man.

Any modern MDM solution will allow you to remove the activation lock before wiping the device.

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pmotiveforce t1_j6o44cs wrote

Wait, but stick with me here, if they all try to hire them back there will be competition for them and salaries will remain high, no?

Not sure what you're saying. Salaries are determined by supply and demand in the market for your labor. If a bunch of companies later decide to hire people back, salaries will go back up.

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Neonlad t1_j6o3yv8 wrote

There is nothing new about this sort of thing. Anytime any hospital/government agency/ or company dealing with confidential information needs to decommission a device it is by procedure destroyed at a recycling plant as part of it’s lifespan in order to protect the data from being recovered and stolen.

Any time those devices are recirculated it is a breach of contract by the recycling company and puts the data at risk. This might sound like a waste, and it kind of is, but this is standard security practice and is the only way to be sure data is completely protected on an old device.

The only thing Apple is doing here is ensuring that these recycling companies can’t say they destroyed something and instead turn around and sell it, which is super common.

Source: I used to work at a grungy computer repair shop and we would be the ones buying these devices from the recycling companies, currently a Sr Sec Analyst so I’ve seen both sides of the coin.

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Willing_Definition71 t1_j6nz8dh wrote

Only way to be sure you don't leak confidential data is to destroy the hardware, companies like this have been destroying hard drives for a long time, they hardly ever resell them, with new laptops there is no separate hard drive + there is other sensitive data outside of that.

They could organise to sell the computers without the motherboards to repair stores possibly, that way people with broken screens may be able to swap in a motherboard etc, but i doubt the recycler wants to do that work.

If the recycling company sold these locked computers instead of destroying them to a bad actor who sites on them hoping someone finds a way around this lock they would sued into non existance.

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MartinSchou t1_j6nz81l wrote

> From the large enterprise IT departments I've seen, cleaning up old laptops that aren't being re-used by the enterprise is a very, very low priority

That's a political choice. If there was a direct cost associated with scrapping electronics rather than reusing it, there would be an immediate cost-benefit analysis done.

For example, if there was a $100 deposit on all electronics sold in US stores that would be refunded when a refurbishing company refurbished the product, a company can immediately see a return on investment of company time. It will immediately be worth it to have an IT person spend the 5 minutes it would take to get the device ready for refurbishment. Hell, if the company is large enough, it would be worth it to have someone employed to do only that.

It would also incentivise private individuals to dispose of their devices responsibly, because who wouldn't want $100 just for handing in eWaste?

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Timbershoe t1_j6nyp5z wrote

Seriously?

You could just read the article, but okay.

Some of the companies made the decision to withhold the activation lock, as they specifically and deliberately do not want the machine reused.

To answer your specific question, the article does not specify if that was the IT manager or the company as a whole. It’s a mystery that you’ll never get an answer to, and it’ll eat away at you until the day you die.

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