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Sad-Combination78 t1_j75312i wrote

you missed the point

the problem isn't humans, it's the concept of "learning"

you don't know something, and from your environment, you use logic to figure it out

the problem is you cannot be everywhere all at once and have every experience ever, so you will always be drawing conclusions from limited knowledge.

AI does not and cannot solve this, it is fundamental to learning

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Vince1128 t1_j7526vu wrote

An AI is influenced by its creator, in this case, the human race, an AI uncorruptible is something from the movies, just impossible in our reality by concept. 100% objectivity is not achievable either, and if the AI could be able to do it, would include everyone of us in the group of liers, evil people or whatever you want to call it, because it's judging us based on something unreal.

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FacelessFellow t1_j75215s wrote

So if a human makes an AI the AI will have the humans biases. What about when the AI start making AI. Once that snowball starts rolling, won’t future generations of AI be far enough removed from human biases?

Will no AI ever be able to perceive all of reality instantaneously and objectively? When computational powers grow so immensely that they can track every atom in the universe, won’t that help AI see objective truth?

Perfection is a human construct, but flawlessness may be obtainable by future AI. With enough computational power it can check and double check and triple check and so on, to infinity. Will that not be enough to weed out all true reality?

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kippertie t1_j7513aa wrote

No I think it’s more insidious than that. I think he’s trying to shut down Twitter in a way that doesn’t have his investors coming after him for deliberately destroying it. If he keeps trying to monetize it more and more and it turns into a ghost town he can shrug and go “welp, I tried, guess it was already doomed guys, sorry and all that.

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Real-Problem6805 t1_j750hp4 wrote

Yep because a plan is sustainable. You realize that food programs in places like Africa actually cause more starvation? Because free beats locally purchased every time it drives local produce out of the market. So you have to plan how to do stuff. Otherwise your just feeding pets

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Sad-Combination78 t1_j74y7wa wrote

Think about it like this: Anything which learns based on its environment is susceptible to bias.

Humans have biases themselves. Each person has different life experiences and weighs their own lived experiences above hypothetical situations they can't verify themselves. We create models of perception to interpret the world based on our past experiences, and then use these models to further interpret our experiences into the future.

Racism, for example, can be a model taught by others, or a conclusion arrived at by bad data (poor experiences due to individual circumstance). I'm still talking about humans here, but all of this is true for AI too.

AI is not different. AI still needs to learn, and it still needs training data. This data can always be biased. This is just part of reality. We have no objective book to pull from. We make it up as we go. Evaluate, analyze, and expand. That is all we can do. We will never be perfect. Neither will AI.

Of course one advantage of AI is that it won't have to reset every 100 years and hope to pass on enough knowledge to its children as it can. Still, this advantage will be one seen only in age.

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LionTigerWings t1_j74xlgy wrote

Could be really beneficial for education. It could essentially act as a tutor that's available 24/7. Schools will need to adapt to avoid cheating, but it should be possible to do that. Make testing and writing live with pen/paper.

Imagine asking it for clarification on a topic your having trouble understanding, or asking it how to solve a math problem you're struggling with. Currently it's wrong from time to time, but it can be improved upon, especially by feeding it textbooks.

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Trotskyist t1_j74x4um wrote

>Also, software to recognize AI generated content is already being made and I'm sure schools will implement a submit system that verifies their students work.

I wouldn't be so sure. As soon as an algorithm is created to detect AI content that exact same model can and will be used to further train the neural network to avoid detection. This is the basic premise behind generative adversarial networks (or GANs,) one of the bigger ML techniques.

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kerkyjerky t1_j74wtmp wrote

I mean do you really need a plan to actually make a difference in someone’s life? Feels like an easy escape if you ask me. It really doesn’t have to be a one size fits all approach, just give starving people food, the details can be worked out later. If you have ever been starved or genuinely malnourished, you would know that nothing else matters.

Again, if he genuinely wanted to make a difference in starving peoples lives, he can do it one meal at a time, one community at a time, hell one person at a time. Because as of right now, he still has done less than my 35 dollar a month donation.

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