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The bigger problem is you not understanding AI or how bias happens. If you did, the point NoteIndividual was making would be a lot more obvious.

There is not just one type of "AI" -- for the most part it's a collection of algorithms. Not only is the type of data you put in important -- even the order can change the results, because it doesn't "Train on all the data all at once" -- so, one method is to randomly sample the data over and over again as the AI "learns." Or, better to say the algorithm with neural nets and Gaussian functions abstracts the data.

Very easy to say "in an area where we've arrested people, the family members of convicts and their neighborhoods are more likely to commit crime." What do you do once you know this information? Arrest everyone or give them financial support? Or set up after school programs to keep kids occupied doing interesting things until their parents get home from work? There is nothing wrong with BIAS if the data is biased -- the problem comes from what you do with it and how you frame it.

There are systems that are used to determine probability. So if someone has symptom like a cough, that are the chances they have the flu. Statistics can be complied for every symptom and the probability of the cause can be determined. Each new data point like body temperature, can increase or decrease the result. The more data over more people over more time the more predictive the model will be. If you are prescribing medicine, than an expert system can match the most likely treatment with a series of questions.

We need to compile data on "what works to help" in any given situation. The police department is a hammer and they only work on nails.

Look, don’t take it personally, ultimately, you’re stating ‘people’ (known to be naturally prone to bias) are going to ‘program the bias’ out of AI (speaks for itself imo). That was exactly the point I was making & apparently other sub members agree. Simply put, its such a poor argument imo, to the point that I am not willing to sit here & read paragraphs of text to the contrary. I don’t state that to offend you (whom I don’t know), I’m just keeping it 💯 from my perspective. You are obviously entitled to your opinion as well, hence my keeping my response short/succinct vs. trying to convince you otherwise.

At a minimum, I might suggest not taking these casual internet discussions with strangers so personally. Nothing more then a suggestion…

Peace ✌🏽

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>Take a wild guess on how many people employed in Silicon Valley who vote the same way, who feel the same about Trans issues, who feel the same about gun control, who feel the same about Christianity, who feel the same about abortion.

They vote the way educated people tend to vote. Yes -- it's a huge monoculture of educated people eschewing people who ascribe light switches to fairy magic.

>THIS is the key problem,

No, it's thinking like yours that is the key problem when using a TOOL for answers. Let's say the answer to the Universe and everything is 42. NOW, what do you do with that?

>NOT making decisions directly for human beings.

That I agree with. But not taking advantage of AI to plan better is a huge waste. There is no putting this Genie back on the bottle. So the question isn't "AI or not AI" the question is; what rules are we going to live by, and how do we integrate with it? Who gets the inventions of AI?

It's the same problem with allowing a patent on DNA. The concept of the COMMON GOOD and where does this go in the future has to take priority over "rewarding" someone who owns the AI device some geek made for them.

>TLDR;

It's really a shitty thing about reddit that the guy who makes that comment gets more upvotes than the person attempting to explain. "Smoke and Mirrors" -- how about which aspect of this are you saying that applies to? Be specific about the situation where they used AI to determine choices in business, society, planning. These are all different problems with different challenges and there are so many ways you can approach them with technology.

And, this concept that "AI do this" really has to go. They are more different in their approaches than people are. They are programmed AND trained. There's a huge difference between attempts to simulate creativity and attempts to provide the best response that is accurate, to making predictions about cause and effect. The conversation depth on this topic is remedial at best.

AI can absolutely be a tool here. It just takes work to get right. However, the main problem is the goals and the understanding of people. What are they trying to accomplish? Do they have the will to follow through with a good plan? Do the people in charge have a clue?

I found ChatbotGPT

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Yup. Pretty much. I'm not a programmer, but I've done this exact thing on a raspberry pi which is why I mentioned it. Didn't know about Puppeteer, but yeah, that seems like a much easier solution!

You can literally program that with Python in an hour or two. There's lots of tutorials out there for it. The goal was to get around paying for Twitter's API. You're right, I'm not a professional programmer, or even knowledgeable, but I have done this before for another project which is why I mentioned it.

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There’s no guilty or not guilty in a civil suit… clickbait articles

The irony is crazy

So atomic mass is subjective? The table of elements is subjective?

Your comment just made it sound like a perspective thing. It’s sounds like it’s all about people and their subjective reality.

Objectively, an atom has so many electrons. Or does the number of electrons change depending on who is observing?

If I put 3 eggs on the table, it will be 3 eggs for someone else. Even if they’re blind, they can touch the eggs. Or be told by someone that it’s 3 eggs. I don’t see what can change the fact that there’s 3 eggs on the counter.

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You dropped this

The bears must be hibernating

It's true direct food aid pushes local prices down and pushes local farmers out of the market.https://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/world/americas/14iht-food.4.7116855.html

Tesla is still a public company?

This article reads like Breton wants to stop any open source competition to ChatGPT, and wants such systems only available under tight control from large corporations.

That seems like a threat to ensuring that humanity can enjoy the benefits of such technology equally.

You can't really join the ranks of the wise people until you understand this. You don't think people with different perspectives and life histories and fortunes see a different "reality?"

If you get depressed -- doesn't that change what you see? If you take hallucinogenics, that alters your perspective. Your state of mind will interpret and experience life. Do you know if you are rich or poor until you have knowledge of what other people have or don't have?

Can you see the phone signals in the air, or do you ONLY get the phone call intended for you? You answer a call, and speak to someone -- you now have a different perspective and slice of reality than other people. Without the phone with that one number -- you walk around as if nothing was there. But, that data is there and ONLY affects some people.

Do you see in all of the EM spectrum? No. Visible light is a very small slice of it. If you had infrared or ultraviolet goggles, you would suddenly have information about your environment other people don't. Profoundly color blind people -- don't see the Green or the Red traffic lights except by position. Someone who sees colors might forget if the Red light is on the bottom or the top - -they take it for granted that they can tell. And the blind now have auditory signals at the street level -- their "knowledge" of the reality sighted people have of the same environment has changed for the better in that regard.

That's the challenge of data and science and especially statistics; what do you measure? What is significant to evaluate is a choice. And your view of reality is always in context of the framework you have from society, your situation, your "luck", your state of mind.

A nice sunny day, and one person gets a phone call that their mother has died -- it's a different reality and "truth."

So, I hope you continue experimenting with this notion that there is not and never has been one reality because we all have a different perspective and we can't all look at the entire thing. We can't all hear it. We can't all feel it. We interpret the data differently and choose different parts to evaluate.

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You’re basically talking about rolling your own client side API that just impersonates browser interaction, even if it’s something out of the box, and said that was an “easy” replacement for a documented server side API. And the raspberry pi is completely irrelevant — as it’s just a place to do the compute.

This idea doesn’t make you seem knowledgeable on the subject.

EU and Breton? What about Normandy?

LMAO this article only got 24 upvotes, 11 comments

What a great subreddit

After playing around with chat gpt for a few weeks…I am no longer super impressed with it.

It has major limitations with any complexity that is required for any sort of high level work.

Sure it can write you some super basic elementary level summaries, content and code. But that’s kinda where it ends.