Did anyone think to ask chatgpt how ml ai works, iv not personally jumped on and played with chatgpt. It's a fun concept as to whats going on under the hood, when I create an ai, bt, FSM, I use weighted variables for more natural looking results, anyone interested have a look at the first ai made to dissern "is this an apple", then have a look into neuroscience, learn about animal brains, Inc human, boids are a good example of having 3 basic rules that weight each other, alignment, coheasion and minimum distance to nearest neighbour. Play with ai and get a feel for them, give it a go at making one, something is only difficult until we do it. Btw I'm a game Dev for a game called AiV on android and an unrelease title called survi-vr on meta quest 2. If anyone is interested decompile my game and see how I made the ai's 😁 they are basic and do the job they are required todo 😁

Any good alternative to try in the meantime? Really want a good email client.

Matyroshka are those nested Russian dolls where they keep getting smaller.

They say that they're going to make it "extremely customizable" so fingers crossed

While this is true, you then have all your emails in Google’s hands. Some people want to avoid that. Some people also expect more from an email client than sending and receiving emails. E.g. signing and encrypting emails, storing emails offline, custom filters, auto-reply settings, just to name a few. Thunderbird is a good choice if you like all of those.

Despite a lot of dislikes that your comment got I also do believe that Google password manager or Apple Keychain (for those who are all in on Apple ecosystem) are better and safer solutions.

Like where is your data more safe: at Google and Apple or at some random small startup with five employees total?

Ok buddy, whatever you say. The fact that you’ve said “matrix” throughout this and consistently referred to them as having a rank of two is telling.

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N^2 is not exponential, 2^N is.

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No, it is actually a novel "discovery" or rather research paper.

If you read the abstract of the paper it makes more sense

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2211.15661.pdf

Rainbow tables are easily thwarted by salting passwords before hashing. Most systems do this nowadays. Pretty sure LP also does this.

In a time where every major browser is announcing revolutionary new LLM AI integrations, I feel like Mozilla announcing a new email client is like listening to your friends talk about the new cars they just bought and going “I found a dead pigeon at the side of the road once” because you want to feel included.

Like, good for you, but that’s not what this conversation is about.

Lol no it's a magical black box. Nobody knows what's actually happening in there.

The difference is the computing architecture. Obviously you can't just scale any computing system and have theory of mind appear as an emergent property, the computations need to have a pattern that allows it.

This isn't that surprising though.. it's already been proven that neural networks are turing complete, and therefore any arbitrary program can be described with a "static" (that is weights/parameters are not changed) neural network of sufficient complexity.

So it isn't so much a "new discovery" as much as "validation of something that we new was going to be observed".

Don't get me wrong, this is going to be interesting. It gives us insight into how things work. That is, actually understand what is the solution a neural network built. Also it'd be interesting to work backwards and see if certain algorithms tend to happen naturally on sufficiently complex systems. Optimization sounds natural. Then the next step would be to analyze and see if they happen on organic beings that have intelligent systems (animal neural systems may be too complex, IMHO, to observe cleanly at first but we may have something interesting on simpler systems for plants, fungi or such, with better understanding we may look for this in more complex systems, such as animals).

This would start giving us an insight into how intelligence works. If strong human-like AI is the philosopher's stone to turn lead into gold (now possible with a particle accelerator and sufficient resources), this may be the equivalent of understanding the difference between elements and molecules: a solid first step to start forming a model that we can test and refine. That said we're still a bit far from that.

I think though interesting things will happen from us understanding AI better, and having a better understanding of how they actually work (as in what is the system that the neural network hit on), rather than a handwavy "statistical magic" that we have nowadays.

I have to concur

Brains employ universal computation, as computers. What’s the difference?

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Are you really arguing that "well, technically it's sent via TLS" is actually adequate for a password manager?

WHY? The current interface is perfectly fine!

You're well-read.

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See where it spits