What has that got to do with anything? JupiterKansas was saying foreign social media sites aren't subject to US laws. A VPN doesn't help there.

You cannot ban this technology, because you can't enforce it. It's essentially similar to Napster. If you ban it, 30 more popped up. It wasn't until streaming made the $15 + convenience a better value than free media + viruses that piracy fell out of the mainstream.

I think the best solution currently is to require videos to label such content, such as how sponsored content must be labeled. Granted, this only works for now while deepfake technology is still detectable.

There is a fun little thing called a VPN...

When AI takes over they'll quote these threads of us laughing at it back to us as reasons to destroy us or something lol

The money is ridiculous.

I would give them $0. Just do like Europe and say you're prohibited from making any more DC chargers that don't support CCS (at least in addition to your proprietary connector). You're not required to retrofit the old ones, and so we're not going to pay you anything for it.

Tesla is right now saying 7500 chargers. It's not even clear they are all DC. Some may be Level 2.

[edit: It's 3500 DC and 4000 L2!. But also the entire $7.5B does not go to Tesla. Just part of it. So my $1M below figure may be far too high.]

$1M a charger? Ridiculous.

Plus Tesla will use the billing system in place to create a database of EV owners for them to market to. And force them to download the Tesla app, giving them a line direct to their pocket.

California law requires them to make their chargers available to everyone without joining a club (no memberships). I hope that law sticks here. But this is Musk. The same guy who refused to close his plants during COVID because he's too damn important for it. He made false claims that he had permission to operate.

I don't really expect them to follow the California law.

"If you try to hack me I will hack you back."

And hasn't this deal come about via a substantial financial incentive? I'd say that's $7.5B reasons why Tesla is taking the deal.

Not if he’s the receiving end from mandingo

Yes .. look at Venezuela, Columbia, Africa - people hold their money in crypto because the government debases the currency to $0. The same thing will eventually happen to the USD - if the government isn’t careful, it will lose its reserve status and people have many other options now. Read “the ascent of money” - government currencies rarely last more than a few decades, they ALL eventually go to $0 leaving citizens poor.

> Don't you think its likely that the the delay by a couple months of opening the network might have been because they knew this was coming down the pike?

I don't believe it is a delay "of a couple months". This is the company that will have self driving by the end of the year for 6 years running.

Musk promised this by the end of last year and now the current tweets say 7500 chargers "by the end of 2024". How is that "a couple months"?

> Also there are already Tesla level 2 destination chargers open to non-tesla drivers with an adapter.

Jimmying into their system is no credit to Tesla. The adapters trick the chargers.

Tesla also started to install J1772 ports (fewer than Tesla ports, but still) with their destination chargers at some sites (like hotels, etc.) after a while. But only after the government said that the site operators (again, like hotels, etc.) couldn't get any tax credits for EV infrastructure if they were only installing chargers with Tesla connectors.

It worked before. Time to do it again. For sure don't give them money for 7500 chargers and so far empty promises. And take away all their benefits/handouts as well as CCS charging for their cars until the commit to fully joining the CCS charging infrastructure (with their DC network).

And this has kept the government in check?

I don't think they make more from DC charging Teslas given you can't even connect a Tesla without buying the CCS adapter which only came out late last year in the US and is not selling 1:1 with cars. And it's $250. And it doesn't work with every car they made, only ones made very recently. "Check back in 2023 for retrofit information."

https://shop.tesla.com/product/ccs-combo-1-adapter?web=true

Also, I can see their banks of chargers around the corner from my house. No, it's not Teslas there. It's VWs and Polestars. Why? Because those companies give out a bunch of free charging at Electrify America chargers with their cars.

Which means those chargers which others could use to take long trips are instead clogged up with cars from people trying to save a dollar or two charging their car.

Giveaways of free charging at DCFCs should be banned.

> That’s the reason they won’t block Tesla vehicles.

I'm not talking about the companies making the decisions. I'm talking about the government making the decisions.

You don’t think USD funds drug cartels and child abuse and wars ? 😂 Every single crypto transaction is recorded on a PUBLIC ledger that the entire world can see. Everything is auditable. You cannot say the same for the US Dollar. Criminals that use BTC are morons, the problem is the government isn’t competent enough yet to understand how to read the public ledger.

Bing is a browser?

How has it kept the government in check so far

Or is finding child abuse and drug cartels a version of keeping the government in check?

The only singularity current day AI will reach is one of pure disappointment.

Wow I completely forgot about that one. How does even keep up with the daily news barrage of the new sentient AI coming to kill us all?? And I say that sincerely as someone who works in the field sort of

>My rules are more important than not harming you

Am I the only one not amused by this? This shit is terrifying. Nobody here has ever seen terminator?

Hey man don’t talk shit or Bing is gonna back trace you and report you to the cyber police.

This will 100% backfire. Platforms will cull creators they deem as risky and surprise them in recommendations. Only approved creators and vendors will be in searches which means political figures with controversial views will end suppressed more than before.

Another option is recommendations become like Facebook ads where creators will have to pay( bid) to be seen on the list.

One other option is having users have to opt in and as you said hide it behind a modest paywall

“Gubamint reglumations? On my damn tractor, now? Get a rope!”

“No, no, grandpa these are good regulations!”

“Humph. You ain’t one of them wokes now, is ya?”

If they want to operate in the US, they have to obey US laws.

“If you try to hack me I will report you to the authorities” oh lordy Bing is a complete Karen

Don't you think its likely that the the delay by a couple months of opening the network might have been because they knew this was coming down the pike?

Also there are already Tesla level 2 destination chargers open to non-tesla drivers with an adapter.

Ugh. Well put, but damn is that a depressing synopsis...