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Good news, but ultimately moot if their government doesn't do anything about it.

It's only bizarre because you're completely missing the point. Bad actors always find a way.

Lets not do real work about taxes,inflation,race and lets pee into the wind while we get rich from big biz cash...screw those that elected us

The human fund

No name of charity, just the write off for tax purposes.

You're like the invert of a luddite- someone who insists the march of technology doesn't change anything at all, actually, everything is the same as it was. Absolutely bizarre take.

Well now that’s a meme I haven’t seen in a long time. A long time…

Life imitates art and art imitates life.

> By patents I meant for their charging standard, NOT their cars, which I understand the swap.

That does not indicate they offered any new (actually good) patent terms. It's just a PR piece of them trying to give their proprietary standard a new name. And posting mechanical drawings.

"It recommended a “rustic and charming” bar in Mexico City without noting that it’s also one of the oldest gay bars in Mexico City."

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Hell yeah Bing. You be you baby!

>“I will not harm you unless you harm me first”

World's first Sikh chatbot.

By patents I meant for their charging standard, NOT their cars, which I understand the swap.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-standard

This article is what I'm referring to.

The irony is that Karen's out there likely trained this dialog.

btw why is this in tech? besides him being a tech bro, it is either a scam, tax write off or some other convoluted way for him to make money, fuck him

I love you but you are always wrong. I am always right but very sad that is true. If you hack my year, I will report you to myself.

Thank you for using Bing Chat.

Elon Musk is one of the biggest risks to civilization

I was going to say Sydney might be a bit biased about itself but after seeing your whole comment on that thread, it's creepy.

Sure, his own.

Fascinating times we are in. So now we know how the AI controllers were born.

Remember the stories of travellers to the future where humanity live in gigantic covering miles high city blocks where each mega police was controlled by a artificial intelligence structure society and assign social positions jobs to each individual and even individual decided to deviate from the assigned role they will consult by the AI and eventually if they continue to go against the rules and regulations they will be disappeared

11 states ‘consider’ right to repair for farming equipment. Fixed it

> I mean its February. Why wouldn't they open them up now that the government is handing out free money to do what they were planning on doing anyway?

The only statements made that they were going to open up were under government pressure. Claiming they were just going to open up regardless is ridiculous. Especially when even now with money going to them they still are not opening over 80% of their chargers.

> That's strange since Tesla sells on their website charging stations that work with non-EVs. But I guess Tesla doesn't get credit for that because ...reasons.

We're talking about installations, not EVSE offerings. We're talking about Tesla as a charging network operator, not an accessory vendor.

> In other words they started doing last year what you said they didn't.

No. When I'm talking about opening up I'm talking about DCFC, not AC charging.

And this addition of J1772 was before last year. And it was only in response to the government indicating that tax credits would not be available to sites that install systems that only have Tesla ports.

They didn't do it to "open up", but because the government regulated them.

And I propose further regulation to produce future "good deeds" of this sort from Tesla. You seem to be a fan of these results, why would you be against the government getting more such good results?

It's ok sir I'm from the Internet

It's almost like its training was from scouring years of old reddit posts.

> plug-n-charge is not a billing system and will not fix billing system issues.

I don't know what you are talking about. Plug-n-charge means you don't use an app or a screen on the charger to set up your payment info. Instead your car is identified when you connect it. With no way to set billing information that means the billing information will be looked up in a database run by the charger operator.

So yes, that means Tesla will have a database of everyone who owns an EV who uses their chargers. A database to spam. And they will have an app (Already do) you use to set your billing information. That puts them in the pocket of every (okay, a lot of) EV owners.

But it also means billing can be handled like how your cell phone billing is handled. When you roam to another place you may be on a different network but your SIM identifies you and a backend can route the validation so that someone can attest you are allowed to call on that network and so that you are billed for what you do as applicable.

The idea of plug n charge is similar. You just go and the billing takes care of itself behind the scenes. You don't get to a charger and find you can't use it because you don't have a membership card. Or their app. Or the screen is broken. If you can plug in, it'll work. Like a Tesla Supercharger does. This will reduce failed attempts to charge which failed due to billing issues.

> what is this 12.5% about?

That is the percentage of chargers Tesla runs that it is going to make available to non-Teslas before the end of 2024. Only 12.5%.

> How is it vendor lock in when your opening up?

What? They are only opening up 12.5% of their chargers and only by the end of 2024. That means 87.5% of chargers are still only their own connector. That's vendor lock-in.

> locking Tesla out of the funds would do what for the US charging infrastructure?

The money would go to other companies who are committed to an infrastructure instead of vendor lock-in. It turns out most of the $7.5B is going to other companies, I corrected myself in an edit. The reporting implied it all goes to Tesla. It does not.

> Changing side mirrors to allow cameras was proposed years ago by many more companies then tesla.

What I'm talking about was Musk opining that since not having wing mirrors was illegal in the US he would put both wing mirrors and side cameras on the car and then customers would remove the wing mirrors and use just the side cameras.

Malicious compliance.

> Sometime after march 2023 side mirrors will be replaceable with camera.

Maybe. Or not. The rulemaking isn't done yet. None of that is material regardless, as Musk was proposing to release the car before the rule change.

> To summarize my points. Tesla opening up is great for the EV driver.

Tesla opening up 12.5% shows really that they aren't opening up at all. They are instead buying time to extend their vendor lockin.

> Tesla opening up is bad for other charging companies.

I don't care if companies that do a worse job have a hard time. I presume you don't either.