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Dear-Attempt-2182 t1_j6jb0fd wrote

Reply to comment by HenroTee in What’s actually a good/tolerable example of retconning? by unitedfan6191

I also have totally believed ageing was the reason Kendall's kids aren't on screen, but they're still mostly invoked in the most recent season in a "you never see them and don't care about them" way. It's not really a retcon but I thought it was interesting that they were kinda lumped into the show phasing out anyone younger than the main characters (some of them definitely as retcons). You'd think there'd be something to explore about the adult kids, constantly questioning their loyalty to Logan, having their own heirs to worry about or fear.

Generally I don't think what I said about Logan's dementia was wrong. It's the catalyst for the start of the series, and the first season plays with to what degree it's a real concern, but once he announces he's staying on and the show shifts to merger storylines, or Shiv and Roman getting moments in the sun, (outside the 'cat under the chair' episode) Logan's not pissing on carpets anymore or making business moves that seem less than calculated.

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MarkMech t1_j6jazzf wrote

Reply to comment by FrankRizzo65 in Should I watch Mr. Robot? I keep hearing it’s one of the best shows ever. by 1000Fatkidz

I tried to watch it twice, once alone and once with my gf (she was also trying a rewatch). We both enjoyed season 1 and couldn't remember why we stopped watching independently of each other. The season 2 happened... We had to keep pausing because it was killing our spirits.. Eventually we quit. I'm sorry, but if I need to slog though hours of boredom just to enjoy the later parts of your show, it's not a good show. I won't be attempting a third rewatch to finish

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KoreKhthonia t1_j6jac9c wrote

Reply to comment by Throwaway47321 in What are some shows that were advertised to one demographic, but became successful outside of the target demographic? by blqckwidow

I feel like it's probably a lot harder to make a toddler/preschool show appealing to adults while still appealing to its actual target audience, versus kids' shows aimed at school-age children or tweens.

Some shows definitely pull it off, though, it's just rare. Haven't seen Bluey due to neither having kids, nor having young relatives or friends' kids in the right age bracket for it. Arthur pulls it off, though, imo.

Though Arthur tends to be kind of like, an "all-ages" kids' show, if that makes sense? Like, it's a solid choice for a preschooler, but it's also enjoyable for older kids closer to the main characters' actual ages (iirc Arthur is in 3rd or 4th grade). Kind of in a different category than something like Dora the Explorer.

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Petrichor02 t1_j6j9q9t wrote

Reply to Which shows do you think needs a "warning" before watching? i.e. Bad first season, skip X, Y is bad etc by alienfreaks04

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - It's best watched in timeline order with the movies as the plots of each dovetail into each other (and make sure you watch at least the first season of Agent Carter before watching Season 7 of this show). If you're just getting started with the MCU, you may have to push through the first 12 episodes as the show doesn't really become regularly good until 1x13 (and doesn't become regularly great until closer to 1x17 or so).

Arrested Development - You can treat Season 3 as the final season or Season 5 as the final season. Arguments can be made either way as to which is preferable. Also if you do continue past Season 3, there are two different versions of Season 4 (and, naturally, arguments as to which version is better).

Battlestar Galactica - There are web series, movies, and a miniseries that are intended to be watched along with the show to give you the full story.

Brooklyn 9-9 - Season 8 starts out rough, but push through because the finale is worth it.

Cougar Town - Push through until you get past the Season 1 Thanksgiving episode and the show will slowly improve from there.

The various Defenders shows - Make sure you watch in release/timeline order. This is particularly important for Daredevil S3, The Punisher, and The Defenders.

LOST - There are various web series and videos to watch along with the show if you want the full story.

Runaways - Don't watch Season 3 until after you've watched Cloak & Dagger.

Scrubs - Season 9 is technically Season 1 of Scrubs: Med School rather than a continuation of the main story. Also make sure to check out the Scrubs: Interns web series between Seasons 7 and 8. And try to find a version of the show that has the original music rather than the streaming versions that have the original music stripped out.

Supernatural - Treat it as a five season show with a six season sequel show which has its own four season sequel show rather than one 15 season show. When you get to the end of Season 5 cut it off in the last minute or so when a lamp post appears. If you are satisfied with that as the ending, or you're a stickler for lore and continuity, treat that as the end of the show (but maybe track down a list of good later standalone episodes). If you don't care about lore and continuity and you want to continue seeing more stories featuring the main characters, proceed to Season 6. Then do the pause, reflect, and decide if you're happy with the current scene as an ending thing again in the Season 11 finale when there's a large shot of the sun. (You could arguably do this pause, reflect, and decide if you like that ending before proceeding for 15x19 as well.) Also, for Season 1 make sure you find a version that has the original music rather than the streaming versions where the original music was removed and replaced.

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KoreKhthonia t1_j6j9je2 wrote

Reply to comment by MikeOfAllPeople in What are some shows that were advertised to one demographic, but became successful outside of the target demographic? by blqckwidow

I feel like that's kind of typical, or at least not new, for kids' shows, though.

E.g., Rugrats and Muppet Babies -- which were my favorites as a little kid, like preschool/early school age -- made heavy use of pop culture parodies in their plotlines.

I mean, sure, '90s kids probably got the Star Wars and Indiana Jones references. But no cap, Muppet Babies did an episode that parodied The African Queen, which is apparently an old Humphrey Bogart movie from the '50s. No way a kindergartener in 1995 was gonna get that reference, lmao. Kid me legit wondered what the hell they were parodying.

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Prax150 t1_j6j9ark wrote

Reply to comment by WeDriftEternal in CNN To Show Bill Maher’s ‘Overtime’ Segments As Part Of Friday Night by ceaguila84

> He’s not getting great guests either.

I think this was my biggest problem when I finally gave up on the show. I agree with everything else you're saying and the worst of his opinions were certainly exacerbated by isolation everyone went through. But the appeal of the show for me was always the quality and variety in the guests. I obviously didn't always agree but on most issues it truly felt like the show had diversity of thought and that whether it was Bill or a panel guest there was a good element of spirited debate and being able to push back on any idea. No matter what you believe I think that kind of skepticism and pushback is important.

But then the pandemic hits, for a while the show is just him and truly awful (but what else were we watching that summer of 2020 lol). Then he goes back to the studio and understandably a lot of people are unable or unwilling to travel. And everything that happens in 2020 further divides people and platforming certain kinds of people becomes actively dangerous and stops others from wanting to engage. Bill himself is even pushing back less. Like, having a Milo or Kellyanne or whomever (just examples) even in 2019 hits different than in late 2020/2021.

Combine that with Bill's opinions getting worse and it just became unwatchable. I believe it's better now but the relief I felt when I finally gave up gives me no desire to go back.

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