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Audityne t1_j6nov5q wrote

I’ve noticed a couple of moments, a more subtle one is when Joel is beating the FEDRA guard to death and Ellie is watching with a morbid fascination, and then also the more overt one where she slices then stabs the trapped infected in this last episodes.

Not sure what they’re going for exactly with this, but I am open to whatever it is.

Nothing wrong with the lines Ellie says specifically imo, it’s pretty on brand for the Ellie we know from the game. Just the acting is a bit different, showing a sadistic(?) side of her for some yet to be discovered purpose.

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kat1701 t1_j6nonl4 wrote

I can definitely see where you’re getting that sense from. To me it seems less like sadism and more a natural, hungry curiosity and fascination with a world that’s been withheld or distanced from her for her whole life. Plus she’s a 14 yr old teen, they tend to get excited about the idea of dangerous, forbidden things like guns or knives lol so that part reads very typical teen to me.

The moment with the infected she found in that basement is what definitely feels a bit concerning, and the only thing I’d say felt as straight up sadistic so far. But it could also be pretty easily explained as a fascination with something that has had such a big impact on her life and that has taken away so many things she views as wonderful aspects of life before - like the airplane she and Joel see. And it’s something most people don’t really get an opportunity to see up close with little chance of danger. So she hurts it out of malice, or to see if it does hurt, or just to see what would happen.

I’m not too worried yet but who knows lol.

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boogersrus t1_j6nnvvc wrote

Hyperbole is annoying and it sets up weird battles over stuff because then people end up fighting against stuff they really liked but didn't love. I mean I'll give 10's out on IMDB fairly freely for good episodes of TV but any paid critic jumping to BEST EVER four hours after watching something should really calm down, no matter what it is.

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ZombieFluffy t1_j6nne9l wrote

i think I'm in the middle, I can appreciate the episode and thought it was beautiful but I didn't cry and I cry at everything. I think part of me as a fan of the game really wanted to see Ellie and Bill interact the most.

I also think reading constantly the week before that 'this is the best episode of the series' didn't help with not feeling what I was meant to. .

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stumpcity t1_j6nlqzo wrote

>Having Bill step in and do the usual "Oh my god he's so good at singing" thing kind of cheapened it.

Bill wasn't very good at singing. He just didn't miss the notes. He's just as awkward as Frank was, the point is that he's obviously practiced it over and over and even with the voice not being very good at all you can tell he means it.

The point isn't "oh god, he's good at singing" it's "oh god, something finally unlocked in this man."

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inthearticleuidiot t1_j6nlqe8 wrote

People are coming into any discussion about the show ready to fight against bigots. It was a huge problem with the fandom of the games just because they included non-hetero, non-white, non-cis characters.

Trying to discuss the games and any criticism of them was largely drown out by bigots and people screaming at bigots. If you're going to talk about this show critically just know that people will come at you with these assumptions whether they are warranted or not.

I really couldn't tell you why it's so heated with this franchise. Maybe it's because the games mash up the conservative fantasy of survivalism and murdering people to protect your "family" with token diversity and inclusivity.

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Lidjungle t1_j6nlnsv wrote

Person who gets paid millions just to talk says something that makes people not hear what she wants to say. "Cancelled" This discussion comes up as we discuss her new comedy special being advertised during the NFL championship game. Because cancel culture isn't just one and done.

I mean, I guess I got cancelled at birth! I'm still waiting for someone to give me 26 Million to do a Netflix special where I insult trans people. I mean, 50 years is a long-ass time to not have a Netflix special. How dare they deprive me of my livelihood like this!!!! Just the woke mob run amok I tells ya.

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