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Delamoor t1_j8ujsuo wrote

You've just discovered the trope named 'power creep'.

It's why reboots were, and remain, so popular.

Anime is the ultimate trope-setter in this regard. Shows like Naruto; start with throwing knives well and a few years later They're giant transforming gods fighting on the moon, because... How do you ratchet the stakes back down? Not easily.

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garlicroastedpotato t1_j8u5a8f wrote

I mean, it's not all the writing, it feels like it's mostly the editing.

Thor Love and Thunder was, particularly bad. The writing was all there for a very dramatic, funny and deep story about a cancer victim that would be relevant not only to Marvel fans but also to people who are suffering with cancer, have family members with cancer or those who have lost people with cancer.

Here you have history's forgotten woman, dumped and abandoned by her boyfriend and largely forgotten to the world. In her desperation she turns to every possible way to treat her cancer.... and it fails, time after time. And so where science failed she turned to magic (almost a line in the film!). She grabs Thor's hammer and becomes Mighty Thor... the hammer sustains her and gives her a boost to survive.... while the treatment is also killing her very slowly. Every time she uses it she gets closer to dying. What a great plot device! You could say that you could have a very deep film focusing mostly on Natalie Portman talking about a lasting legacy and what she hopes to leave the world after she dies. A very real thing and worry for cancer victims... something families often don't get.

Parallel to that story you could have had the story of Gorr the God Butcher... brilliantly played (and wasted) with Christian Bale. A religious man on a dying planet who has had his daughter taken from him while the gods just looked on and laughed. He plots to steal all of the children of the gods (you know... the theme of legacy works here).

These are fantastic story archs, mostly well executed. But there were a lot of small things that kept Oscar award winning performances from shining. It was all of the Taiki Waititi bullshit to try and get laughs. Like every single sad or serious moment would be broken up by a cheap laugh. That's all the flying goats were... .they bridged serious moments with light heartedness.

It also didn't have to have Thor's story in it... at all. That could have all basically been cut out and it could have focused completely around Mighty Thor and the deeper darker story of coming to terms with your own mortality and what you want to leave behind.

I think in that film you can EDIT a really great movie. I think a lot of the "writing issues" were director edits.

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dbcanuck t1_j8u3kct wrote

a cursory glance at the screenplays for The Witcher S2, Falcon and Winter Soldier, She-Hulk, Ms Marvel, Rings of Power, Obi Wan, and The Book of Boba Fett, could have stopped some ~very~ medicore screentime. For the amount of money these studios are paying, they should demand higher quality.

People complain 'oh you're just anti-woke'. Nope, not at all. I'm tired of paint-by-numbers diversity bingo cards being used as a defence mechanism for poor quality screenplays.

The X-Men were the most diverse list of super heroes ever, and people crave their content desperately. House of Dragon played both genders equally sinister and conniving. Even mainstream shows like Law and Order and CSI manage diverse casts where it feels natural and propels content forward not tiktok moments or content created to get a social media hit.

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garlicroastedpotato t1_j8u1xgw wrote

It's weird... because it really feels like there's no closing that Pandora's Box. Captain America was about stopping the Nazis from winning WW2 through technology. Iron Man was about stopping a CEO from weaponizing the Ironman platform. Thor was about a guy with daddy issues with his brother trying to kill him. Kind of simple stakes. And then you get to Avengers Infinity War and the stakes are.... half of all people dying if they fail. And every movie after that has had similar stakes.

I haven't watched Ant-Man yet. But one of the criticisms I've heard about it is that the stakes feel too small. Like we've become so used to all the stakes being about the end of the world that having stakes that are just, his daughter dies (or whatever it ends up being, haven't watched it yet) is just... too small.

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