If cost-cutting means less overmilking I'm fine with that. Probably won't solve the larger problem of doing too much 'safe' stuff instead of trying to create more new IPs but the oversaturation is very real.

Right? It's so good. Gets better and better with each episode

Yes it pretty shitty. But don’t be dramatic mijo.

Keep watching dude. It gets sooo much better

And Tatooine. FFS.

They do 500 cinematic replays for every moment with the crowd yelling in awe

Considering Apple doesn't have a proper studio like Netflix and all of their shows are purchased from other studios (Sony, WB, MGM,) this is a wild comment.

Kinda bullshit that everything on D+ will suffer as a result. The low Andor numbers I hope don’t lead to a reduced budget, but who knows how far along they are on that show in production.

It’s just misstep after misstep. I’m not saying that HBO isn’t in red, because they most certainly are, but you have to create content that is worth watching and not resting on laurels.

If half of these D+ shows got the quality of HBO shows, this might be a different story. The bubble has burst and we’re going back to square one.

Does anyone remember when House of Cards was brand new and streaming was amazing. How far we’ve come in 10 years with oversaturation and lack of quality content. Give people a reason to subscribe - not oh you gotta watch this Marvel show that doesn’t have any purpose despite us saying it does.

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I'm subscribed directly through Paramount itself, and downloaded Paramount's direct streaming app on the fire platform. Sub is really easy to cancel, so can't complain about that.

Last time I subbed was the last episode of Mayor of Kingstown.

It's definitely cost-cutting, but I suspect they are also hoping that more focus on fewer projects also helps the quality.

Anyway for a few years now I've been thinking that Disney probably needs a third tentpole franchise of some kind (if you don't count their animation as one already) just so they could dial back on Marvel in particular, but also Star Wars a bit. That way instead of giving us 5 movies and 5 shows about Marvel MCU each year, you can cut it back to 3 of each and fill the void with another franchise. Maybe they could even do a Marvel non-MCU franchise of some kind.

Discovery Plus would like a word.

All we need is Andor and She-Hulk. Everything else is trash.

Amazon’s second season shit drives me crazy.

I pay 20 a month for Crave with HBO, and I still pirate Last of Us so I can get 5.1

Crave has garbage quality encodes too

I haven't used it. But I also think OP never used Crave

If you want it sub via Amazon Prime and go thru their (still kinda shitty but not as shitty) UI. It's still bad cause Amazon's separate season garbage, but it's better than the app.

When the Trek shows just started on Paramount+ the subreddit was full of people complaining that the app wouldn't let them easily cancel their sub. It was pretty much always recommended to never use the app. Sad that it still hasn't improved after all these years.

Their problem is that making good content means putting as much love into it as the fans do, but their approach isn't to make something fans love so much as it is to sell as much of it as possible.

Because they make some great stuff sometimes, we tend to forget or ignore that Disney only sets out to sell franchises. It's not like direct sequels to Pocahontas or The Hunchback of Notre Dame should exist, but they do because Disney will keep churning something out until it stops being profitable. And even then, they'll just reboot it somewhere down the line to start over again.

I watched half an episode and it felt sooooo slow. Like we’re just watching people hanging on the ceiling and it wasn’t very interesting.

> People complain 'oh you're just anti-woke'. Nope, not at all. I'm tired of paint-by-numbers diversity bingo cards being used as a defence mechanism for poor quality screenplays.

If people are suggesting you're racist, maybe it's because you think bad writing means casting and writing stories about non-white people. Diversity wasn't the problem with any of those shows.

"Meant for kids" also had a really different meaning when Star Wars came out. All that "meant for kids" meant back then was that it didn't have nudity or gratuitous gore.

It always changes, too. Comics were specifically for kids when the Comics Code took effect in the 50's and into the 60's, but as those kids aged so did comics. By the late 80's and early 90's, comics definitely weren't kids stuff anymore. Spawn was comics grown up, but so was Batman and the X-Men and pretty much the whole stable of comics' evolution from that time.

Star Wars always appealed to more age groups than just kids, but it also grew with the fans who had all those toys as kids; part of its struggles have been because its identity is kind of trapped between misunderstood fan service nostalgia for adults and a marketing engine trying to grow a future fan base through cartoons. Rebels might be designed for kids, but Andor sure wasn't, as one example. A big part of the problem with Star Wars at the moment is that you never really know which one you're going to get... or if they're going to try and make it for everyone, and make no one happy.

I’ll believe it when I see it, Disney

>I just want them to make an Obi-Wan show where he is a "ronin" and just goes from place to place solving peoples problems. Like what Star Wars fan would hate that show?

The mandalorian already had some of that, though.

Ah, so that's where the app exists then.