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cheapnfrozensushi t1_j91qcry wrote

Reply to comment by adevilsadvokate in Variety Emmy Predictions: The Last of Us, Andor and Wednesday predicted by thetrilogy911

yeah there's a larger conversation about the relationship between mass appeal and "quality" that Andor doesn't fit neatly into because of its parent franchise's identity as blockbuster

Andor is definitely more esoteric in form, a genre and style that has its audience and is associated with a level of sophistication - but when it's about real history or politics. Andor is in a space fantasy backdrop, so that muddles how it should be engaged with. I think you can perceive the dissonance in a few ways: as bold pastiche, or half baked emulation. I think Andor more than meets its ambitions in the former but it just has the entirely wrong audience to appreciate it, and it becomes easier to perceive the latter in that context.

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KRIEGLERR t1_j91p6n3 wrote

Reply to comment by FailedChatBot in Carnival Row S2 Now Streaming! by spickerson

> as Bloom himself isn't the greatest actor

Let's be real, he can't act for shit, if it wasn't for him being very handsome he never would have made it.

Funnily enough he is the lead in one of my favourite movie (Kingdom of Heaven DC) but I still think he brings that movie down a bit.

He was okay in PotC because he doesn't really have to act much, and Legolas was perfect for him because he doesn't display much emotions but everything else I've seen him in he was mediocre at best.
And unlike a lot of actors he isn't very charismatic either.

I think there is a reason why he wasn't in many project after 2007, he had an utterly ridiculous run between 2001-2007 (LOTR , Black Hawk Down , Pirates , Troy and Kingdom of Heaven) then I think Hollywood realized he couldn't act.

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WendallX t1_j91opp8 wrote

Reply to comment by VegetableAwkward286 in Will The Last of Us take the generational crown from Breaking Bad? by MoonSpawn12

I think they are really trying to not add or subtract greatly from their existing story. The minute they start stretching out the story or padding it with in between years is the moment they will start breaking a somewhat implied promise with the viewers. They’ve been very vocal about the fact they are adapting this specific story. Also the in between years would take on the effect of a prequel where all suspense is taken away since people know everyone must stay alive bc they are in part 2.

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The_River_Is_Still t1_j91krlj wrote

Reply to comment by YeaSpiderman in Vince McMahon Wants $9 Billion for His WWE Wrestling Media Empire by Sisiwakanamaru

>Lucha libre style

Man, I'm so out of the loop with this. Decades my dude, lol.

If you were going to show someone new to a great intro video of this style/new japan (i think thats the brand? lol), toss me the link you would use.

Even though I don't watch modern wrestling, i fully get how athletic those guys are. I remember seeing a match a long time ago and I was like, Holy shit wrestling has gone to the next damn level apparently. It was not WWE (almost typed WWF, thats how long ago it is for me.....) type stuff. But i never looked into it much, so I have no idea. If you could give me a good starting window video, i'd appreciate it. I think it might awake the nostalgia in me.

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adevilsadvokate t1_j91jzeg wrote

Reply to comment by ruzgardiken in Variety Emmy Predictions: The Last of Us, Andor and Wednesday predicted by thetrilogy911

I would be inclined to agree just because the state of the Star Wars franchise makes that theory seem plausible and likely, but I don't know. On a purely production level, it's everything its "prestige" contemporaries are and more, and I can't think of many TV shows that even attempt to work in the spaces Andor does, and does it at that level. (AMC's Little Drummer Girl from 2018 is the most recent comparison for me.)

There's a combination of elements here that is new grist for the cultural mill, and I think it's easy to overlook because of the IP. I think we can all have preferences for some stuff Andor maybe didn't attempt (more personal drama, perhaps) but it's an exceptional work in both the science fiction and thriller spaces it is in. I think the IP association hurts here more than it helps, because it deserves a spot with some of TV's greats, even if it doesn't have universal appeal/acclaim.

The Criterion Collection doesn't just include a certain type of arthouse drama, right? Andor may not have Better Call Saul character drama or The Last of Us emotion, and all you might see is a "good story", but it's an immaculately well-constructed work with more going on than that credits it, especially for those who do have an affinity for works like a Le Carre adaptation. Tinker Tailor can be the most boring movie to some, but it's been permissible to exist as a Not For Me w/ an acknowledgement of its precision and detail. Andor deserves that too, from a pretentious board that can see those merits. It's good like that, not just for the franchise. So much better than it had any right to be, that it loops around to being inaccessible in some ways

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