I’ve been watching Apple’s streaming service for the last couple weeks, and man, a lot of their stuff just isn’t very memorable. You have all these big name actors, yet the projects themselves aren’t worthwhile except for a couple.

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I just had a person with the last name Heisenberg call in and he said, not that one. LOL

For the Soprano's just about the whole series is quotable because it's just FU Italians. I'm an FU Italian and so are my friends. It is what it is.

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

I fucking loved Eve Harlow and Phoenix Raei's characters and their chemistry made the show worth watching for me, but I thought it was overall entertaining enough to watch too and I'd watch Season 2 as well. I felt like there were some really great dialogue lines I remember being impressed by (which I ironically forgot at the moment) but like when the plot was getting serious and heavier than I assumed it'd get (and it flowed pretty nicely in my opinion), it'd be going well... then >!Rose would say some line referencing a different film (like when they said something about "murdering Godfather-style") and it'd just take me out of the immersion :/!<

So is it more regional than race - i.e do cable companies in the US only serve a specific area? In Australia there only is one so there are no regional differences.

Everything feels forced and the writing is generally bad. Not to mention, I find the acting nowhere near as good. I don't love HIMYF or 90's show, but for whatever reason I throw them on when a new episode is out. But everything just feels watered down compared to older sitcoms.

In the age of streaming the sitcoms that appear via streaming are not given the same length and room to stretch its legs that the sitcoms of even the just pre streaming days were given. Using That 90's Show and That 70's Show as examples One of the big issues I had with 90's was that we didn't really get a chance to "meet" the characters. We know their names and faces but there was no time to explore the relationships between the characters ad it felt rushed to get to the ending. While 70's gave their characters room to grow and to get to know each member of the gang before tossing a sudden love triangle plot in when the characters barely had a chance to interact. The same was the issue with HIMYF compared to HIMYM. I think it has managed to play with the characters and dynamics a bit in season 2 but if you had asked me with season 1 what I thought I would not have been as comfortable with Sophie Jesse and the other characters as I feel now with season 2. Comedy series need room to grow compared to a drama or procedural this era isn't giving a chance for them to grow.

Haha yes the episode when they get drunk is funny.

I liked the show and it may have a cult following. However, it didn't connect with the public and setting up shots for continuous puppet action can't be easy.

So is it more regional than race?

It is not a unique problem to modern sitcoms, there is an intangible “it” factor those shows had or were given proper time to find (I refer to it as the soul, or heart) modern sitcoms have the advantage of knowing that thing exists, that doesn’t mean they have the time or even ability to find it. I thoroughly enjoy looking back at failed pilots and wondering what could have been. Today there is just a higher volume of content being produced so it seems like there are more failures, when I would gather it is probably about the same percentage of successful shows to failures.

I see your point, but I don't necessarily agree with it. Shows like The Office found the footing pretty much immediately in the second season. And even the first season of the show didn't really suffer from the issues that I think are plaguing modern sitcoms.

Shows like American Auto, Welcome to Flatch, How I Met Your Father, have all had full second seasons and still don't seem like they'll end up becoming better than anything besides pretty good.

I'm glad they're trying but nothing has really stuck in terms of Muppets content on Disney+. Muppets Haunted Mansion was fun and cute but I don't know anyone who watched it.

EDIT: Goddammit, Lily Singh is in this.

I'm indifferent towards her, but there's a pretty vocal hatedom for her that'll probably be in the comments.

For context: Lily Singh was a YouTuber who was among the first to go "mainstream" in that she got a latenight show on NBC. It was pretty forward thinking - as a show airing so late at night, they pretty much made content for the Internet by a YouTuber. But it forced her into this dying late-night show box with writers who just weren't a good fit. It's hard to deny some of her monologue's white people jokes (which in itself is a tired topic in standup, even with conservative white males saying hateful rhetoric) didn't hit hard enough. The show wasn't as confident in itself as the similar-in-concept-but-far-better Amber Ruffin show. With that and bad interviewing skills, the show was a bomb. But they're not the worst jokes I've heard about cis straight white males (of which I am one, though on the left). I'm glad she's moved on from the show, but potentially would have a better career if she stuck to YouTube over Hollywood.

I distinctly remember liking Kermit at the yoga retreat.

It's just a darker Community

It would be an absolute crime if he did not get a nom for Better Call Saul.

It’s a different time thanks to Streaming and the ability to watch tv at any time from anywhere. People are consuming media at alarming rates while demanding more. Networks are furiously trying to churn out whatever they can in an effort to draw more eyes to their platform and hope each show finds an audience. If it doesn’t find one quickly, they cut it and move on. Slow growing shows like Seinfeld and The Office would never have a chance to mature and find an audience in todays market.

I've seen this and totally agree. Nothing about the characters seems organic, which makes it hard to see them as real people.

What I wonder, is why is this such an issue for modern sitcoms? Many of these are being written by writers of former, better shows, but suffer serious issues that those shows lacked.

Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem rule so I'm looking forward to this

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First episode was pretty weak

Maybe not more real, but more of a distinct personality? I don't quite know how to describe it, but I feel the same way about characters on 30 Rock. They're pretty much literal cartoons, but I never for a second don't believe them. Whether that's due to writing or acting, I'm not sure.

Even some of the best sitcoms took years to properly gel. Modern ones aren't given the chance.

> Bob Odenkirk could find himself in the rare Emmy air this year. AMC will submit Odenkirk’s new series, “Lucky Hank,” in comedy categories for this year’s Emmy competition, Variety has confirmed.

> Of course, AMC is also submitting the final episodes of Odenkirk’s “Better Call Saul” in the drama fields. Should Odenkirk be nominated in both the best drama actor and best comedy actor races, he would become the first performer in history to be nominated in both genres in the same year.