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givemewhiskeypls t1_jdxo5ho wrote

You went out of your way to point out something you perceived as hypocritical with a political undertone out of context and in response to a completely apolitical comment. So yeah, I think that hints at some zealotry. And the second part of your question doesn’t make sense, you just said something bad about democrats (in Hollywood) so I wouldn’t be surprised if you never said a bad thing about republicans in your life. My point is that you’re taking pot shots at one side of the aisle out of the clear blue to make a point and I’m asking you if you’re an equal opportunity sniper taking pot shots at republican hypocrisy. It’s an honest question, maybe you are. Maybe you’re a crusader against hypocrisy and if you were, I’d respect that. I suspect that’s not the case but happy to be wrong.

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sonia72quebec t1_jdxlx7g wrote

I like shows like Frazier. I think the writing these days is not intelligent enough; it's like they think we are all stupid . The characters are too over the top; we can't see them as real people anymore. They are also too pretty and perfect so we can't relate to them. Seinfeld for exemple had a diverse cast of really unperfected characters who didn't always do the right thing and that why it was funny.

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dadindc84 t1_jdxlpfl wrote

Our attention spans have shortened so you can't setup jokes over a page or two. You have to do them rapid fire or you risk losing the audience. That's really hard to do well. I think some of Chuck Lorre's shows have been amazing that way.

A lot of people watch TV while on their phones or laptops, and it's difficult to write for that. You have to over-explain stuff or repeat it because part of the audience wasn't paying attention.

We're a lot more sensitive than we used to be. Somebody has to be the foil in a joke. A lot of people don't want to see people the the victim. (When I fall down a manhole, it's a tragedy. When you do it, it's comedy.)

I think some shows confuse funny with randomness. If you have a proper setup, something random can be funny. Just random, not so much.

We also have less in common with each other than we used to. Ages, economics, beliefs, education, likes/dislikes, etc. One group may find a comedy hilarious while other groups are left scratching their heads. Comedies that attract a broad audience are getting harder to do.

Comedy's also harder than it looks. My two cents.

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sakamism t1_jdxkz0r wrote

I think it's possible to make a more plot-driven sitcom that's still good. I haven't seen it yet but I've heard The Good Place is like that. But no one seems to want to make the old-school, meandering, slice-of-life sitcoms anymore - even though audiences obviously still crave those shows, since everyone is apparently just rewatching Friends or The Office or Community or whatever over and over again.

The problem won't be solved until the people making TV let more slice-of-life sitcoms be made again, and give them time to build momentum.

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MikeBisonYT t1_jdxkgsp wrote

Older shows had some time to find their footing with the audience to make adjustments. You have to consider relative to the budget if the show is too expensive it could be canned far easier and if the show has star power that could keep it afloat for another season. Today you have to jump out the gate with it being strong in quality and numbers. Seinfeld, Breaking Bad didn't start out with big audience viewership. It had time to grow.

Comedy is another issue, we kind of gone too far and rounded off the edges in comedy that it's perfectly too smooth and safe. Comedy can get dark, absurd, and crude all without having to go over in that Mature rating. It's like a gradient and when comedy doesn't have all the shades of color, we run into problems where now a normal person can tell easily something is off because they can foresee the setup and punch line when they shouldn't mostly. Comedy is still here, it's that TV comedy just got social neutered a little too hard trying to be too mindful of others that it weakened jokes.

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meowskywalker t1_jdxk3xp wrote

I love when a guest star character comes back a season or two later, so the main cast has to be like “hey, remember that person we’ve never mentioned again since the moment their episode ended, we talk about them all the time off screen, right? They’re good friends with us” and you’re like “gee I wonder who’s guest starring this week?”

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RobotDog56 t1_jdxiznh wrote

Too many things in this show took me out of the moment. I'm usually really forgiving of unrealistic things in TV shows and like to just stay in the moment. It started with the cop sneaking up on her when she was hiding in the house (since when do cops enter houses quietly). Then many little things bothered me. The killers kept finding them all the time and they never thought they might be being tracked. Even just when he hid in a room and magically knew when the SS guy had walked past. Other SS guys talking about the only escape route right where he was hiding. Etc etc.

Amenadiel is great though lol.

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