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smesch83 t1_je96zqm wrote

I love this reply, because fans are arguing about this all the time, especially now that the female stars are doing their "Drama Queens" podcast: every week, people will comment "stop the Lucas slander! Lucas is not bad!"

the actor gives off horrible vibes to me and I never saw season 1: when I first saw Lucas in S2 and especially S3, I liked that he came from a poor background and I liked that he was into literature, so personally, I'm fine with him. but yes: I think he's on the same level as Rory from "Gilmore Girls", where a lot of people just say "Side characters? DUMP THIS SANCTIMONIOUS PERSON AND RUN!"

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Genoscythe_ t1_je96f0l wrote

Also, Friends famously didn't do that.

It was a notably stale, politically correct show by 90s standards, which is exactly why it feels so inappropriate today.

When 95% of your jokes are just about six likeable randos hanging out and getting into relatable mishaps like "lifting a sofa to the next floor is hard", or "I just bought a midlife crisis car", then the rest were "My father is a woman I'm so traumatized by that", and "My ex-wife is a lesbian that's so emasculating to me" will instantly feel like further examples of that, where we were meant to laugh with the cast about their sympathetic relatable human foibies.

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[deleted] t1_je95zm1 wrote

Clarkson & team left quite a long time ago. They might've easily tried few seasons and then leave it for years at this point. And I absolutely agree with them. If they made a new show with cars it would've worked better, but they tried to continue being Top Gear and it just felt forced and awkward as hell.

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smesch83 t1_je95cjt wrote

a lot of "relatable" teen boy main characters in 90s shows were this:

  • Brandon in "Beverly Hills, 90210"
  • Zack in "Saved by the Bell"
  • Cory in "Boy meets World".

that being said: I want to go back to this posting in a few days and count how many replies name women/female characters. in soap fandoms and in superhero fandoms, a LOT of the fans are very "she's a stupid cow, so irksome, kill her off!", and I think many people on reddit have that tendency, too.

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