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Zeyz t1_jedcnh3 wrote

Probably bc most people like Clone Wars way more and put it up there with the pinnacle of Star Wars in general. Most consider Rebels and definitely Bad Batch to be a step down in quality from it. You probably don’t realize how unpopular your opinion there is lol.

It would be like someone saying “I loved Revenge of the Sith. Empire Strikes Back was a bit of a step down from there.” in the eyes of many.

I don’t blame you for liking Rebels more personally. I think Rebels later seasons are actually some of the best animated Star Wars content.

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WienerJungle t1_jedcgbx wrote

All I have to say positively about it is the problems it's shown the New Republic having in season 3 and 5 are sort of interesting. I like seeing what is in effect the rebels have the problems of governing and policing rather than just inexplicably seeing them be rebels again like in the sequels. That's about it though, there is shockingly little plot in this show and Grogu is getting old to me.

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stoygeist t1_jedbzzi wrote

Possible. Just because everything is destroyed in the future point, it doesn't mean it happened then. So definitely, it could be that he jumped in the past at the last second before meltdown. Like he was sent to save the day or even maybe Addison was being sent to save the day and an explosion as part of the meltdown kills her so Martinez jumps in to take her place at the last second.

So then it's 50-50 if he really does hate Ben. Again, it would be that he has a mission to save everything, and he's instructed to be mean, or he did lose someone or saw the death and destruction coming and he is pissed. Maybe even more so if he has to not kill Ben because Ben has to get to a certain point for whatever reason before he can be killed. Maybe the mental hospital had to play out first and that's why he tried to kill Ben at the end. Thing about that is Addison saw him, so they would know in the future he did that. So why let him get anywhere near the project?

The more I dissect it, the more contradictions I find I create. I feel like I'm missing something to tie it all together. If Ben causes it all, then why come from the future to tell Ben to leap? Is it because if he doesn't leap the Addison dies in a leap? And she's the one that causes the meltdown because she died? Martinez knows if Ben didn't do the work to revive the project then Addison would never of leaped and caused the meltdown? So far it fits. Well almost.

If all that is true then how did Ian know Ben was going to end up there at that time in the future? Without Ben being there. Then Ian had no way to go to the past to tell Ben to leap. Unless Ian is a hologram. Maybe it took years to find Ben in the future. In the meantime Addison is sent like it was planned in the first place and whatever she did, caused a war. That caused the meltdown. Since Ben is lost to time because relatively, they still hadn't found where he landed in the future, Martinez is sent to to try to fix whatever Addison couldn't. He lost a lot in the war so he hates Ben for even getting the project up again. That would mean that him and Ben have the same final destination and that Martinez just wants to get there first so he can save the world. But there lies another problem. It almost all fits, but not quite.

The first time Martinez saw Ben, he might be surprised. In his timeline, Ben is lost, so if he's lost, Martinez sees him not once, but multiple times. Why not mention to Ben, who Martinez knows for sure worked with Addison, to tell Addison what's going to happen in her future to prevent it? Or tell Addison himself? Martinez is still the odd piece that doesn't fit.

If they're trying to get to the same place to stop the meltdown, then why not work together for the greater good? Save Addison and save the world? I'm now guessing that something is going to be revealed next episode to make him fit. Either that or I really missed a clue somewhere.

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OG-Mate23 t1_jedajez wrote

It's Jesse Armstrongs usual tropes of using political reality, social issues and historical references in a comical and inappropriate manner while enhancing or giving the characters their witty banter. Look at his writings in the Thick of It which if you're not a fan can be little jarring and very on the nose as it progress

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