Maybe you two could, I don’t know, swap juice boxes at recess, If you want to become the talk of the playground, that is... “John and PassengerNumerous sittin’ in a tree...”

The OP is 18 and made a mistake, no need to be so harsh on them.

Her options are essentially to give herself a pass and adhere to 20 years ago standards when it's HER who is making advanced without consent, or hold herself to the same standards she would hold a man to today.

If nothing else, I hope it's an opportunity for her to reflect on the past and current definitions of consent and introspect a bit on how well her actual values and actions align with modern or past values.

No it wouldn't have been. They were rubbing on each other all night and it seems she would've been receptive to some boob fondling.

If she were the guy in this situation, it wouldn't be discussed as if it were a Hallmark movie.

Keep Summer Safe

ik but sounds a bit childish

Yes it means best friends. Well I guess we're in the minority or there's something else there

I realize that I'm the outlier here, but honestly, I think it's pretty hypocritical to take a free pass in this situation.

Although historically the answer would have been to shrug it off and say "meh, two adults had a few drinks, things went places nobody planned for, but oh well, no biggie, we probably would have ended up dating or something anyway. There must have been some underlying chemistry." -- the current standards of consent in our society have no room for this kind of situation.

If the tables were turned, I suspect you would be losing your mind.

I don't think it's okay to have it both ways. Hold yourself to the same ethical standards you would hold a man to, even if strangers on the internet say it's no big deal.

If your take on this is to shrug your shoulders, say "meh, two adults had a few drinks, things went places nobody planned for, but oh well, no biggie, we probably would have ended up dating or something anyway. There must have been some underlying chemistry." Then it might just be time to revise your sense of ethics to better align with your actions.

whats a girl bsf? is it best friend? because males and females can rarely be friends.......... Specially attractive ones

you can feel like your boundaries were crossed even though you were less drunk than him

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The taxonomy if men is wider than "rich-not rich".

There are just as many jerks and alcoholics in the non-rich category. More, actually.

Have you given a thought what you want in a mate, besides financial standing?

I believe it is important to talk about it without considering any guilt.

What did he feel? what did you feel?

How does he want to continue? How do you want to continue?

Sorry why aren't you dating John?

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I was trying to be empathetic by telling her what happened was nbd and’s not to beat herself up. 20 years ago, a woman would never have questioned this whole line of behavior. Now, because everyone’s hypersensitive about everything, you’re subject to judgement for being a normal human.

Ask if you can suck his dick. This will get things going in the right direction.

You have very weird thoughts about boundaries? No rape? Ah, so fondling the boobs is also not crossing boundaries with your fucking logic..

Edit: Definition of a boundary is that someones personal space was violated in a way he/she was not concenting.

You can say bff

No boundaries were crossed either way. No one was raped. Just two drunk friends of different sexes doing what drunk people of different sexes have been doing for millennia.

Yeah, this situation is more of a function of your aunt's ex than a reflection on you. Honestly, if I was your aunt, I'd be thankful that he fully declared himself to be a creep and a bullet dodged before legally binding herself to him. He made many bad decisions... aside from sleeping with someone who's barely legal, he failed to recognize that action was going to poison the well so-to-speak with your aunt. He should've never re-entered a relationship with her after that. Surely this is a big lesson for you, but he's the one who should've known better. He should've turned you away.

I came to two different conclusions after reading this. Title should be “TIFU by dating an asshole” or the whole post should really be an AITA post, in which my response would be no, you are not. Sorry you had to deal with this douche bag. Don’t fret, you’ll find someone better one day!

You should re read the story

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