Fuck that. OP did nothing wrong here.

Yeah I've been using it since I was 17. I'm 28 now but I've never had any issues whatsoever. I thought I was doing myself good. Well, I've learned something today. I'm gonna throw out all of my Summers Eve stuff. Everything I believed I was doing right was bad. Now I feel a bit sad.

That's partly because of companies like Summer's Eve that made people feel like normal vaginal odor was bad. You're lucky though. If I even look at a bottle of Summer's Eve or any similar product, I get BV.

I started using it in college when I got BV for the first time because I thought maybe I wasn't cleaning my vulva well enough (I now suspect he just had bad hygiene) and kept using it after. Even though I broke up with that guy and wasn't sleeping with anyone, I still kept getting BV. Eventually, I told my doctor that I was cleaning down there really well so I didn't understand why it kept happening, and she was like "WITH SOAP?!?!" When I said I was using sensitive skin Summer's Eve (no fragrance, dyes, etc), she explained how even that wasn't great and why it was unnecessary. I'm usually pretty well informed about vaginal health, and I had mentioned how careful I was to rinse down there at the end of my shower just incase and shampoo, body wash, conditioner got near that area so I think she thought I couldn't be using soap down there. I happen to have incredibly sensitive lady bits, but it still makes other people more vulnerable to BV and yeast infections. The wipes freak me out even more because you're not even washing it off

Can I just say, yeah you are a bad person. Take this moment in time as a teaching lesson on humility and compassion , move on and try to be a better human.

I don't really pay attention to that stuff to be honest. I never actually looked into it. I've never felt bad about my body, I just clean all of my body because I thought it was how you do it and so I picked something I believed to be safe.

I think we can hear why you are the way you are. I don't want this to come across too cruel, but I really hope that if you have children that you give them up for adoption as well. You'll ingrain into that child what your family has ingrained into you... please don't do that to the world, the future is going to be hard enough.

I know the difference. You're still not supposed to use soap, just warm water. Products like Summer's Eve are basically a "It's best not to, but if you absolutely must, at least use something vaguely vagina safe," thing. Even if you're not soaping up your actual insides, some soap will get in when you wash your vulva. You don't need it, so why spend money with a company that was founded to make people feel bad about their bodies?

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Hold on, a wahwah is now a hooha?

I must be getting old.

They're practiced in both and have been seeing me for years before I even had my first kid. My gyno isn't the kind of person who's going to do that. Plus, I have a separate Gyno from my OB. Just same practice. I meant to say midwifery with upervising doctor. He's gyno.

I used to have this happen. Shaving isn't a good idea down there for a couple reasons. This is one of them. But, now that it's already happened, harsh soaps aren't really going to help. When you shower, use a clean washcloth to exfoliate so you don't get ingrown hairs. Once you're out of the shower, witch hazel toner then aloe.

I wonder if their doctor was basically like "Fine. If you absolutely must, at least use one formulated for the vagina"

Ah. Thats what it is. Go to a gynecologist or nurse practitioner whose practice is less focused on pregnancy. It's common for midwives and OB/GYNS who focus primarily on the obstetrics part to not necessarily be great with other gynecological concerns

That's a false statement. The inside(the vagina) is self cleaning. Outside(vulva) is not. Who told you the vulva cleans itself? Cuz this is what's being talked about in my comments.

Nobody here is saying use these products up inside your vagina to take care of it. Lol

It's marketed for your bits, but it's not pH balanced for it. It's also not necessary. The vagina is self-cleaning; assuming you're healthy, anything you do to "clean" it just kills the good microbes, making you more susceptible to infections. Some odor is normal. Summer's Eve, Lumi, and all the products like them are built around making people feel self conscious about normal body stuff

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For skin, yes. For mucous membranes, absolutely not

Dilute! Dilute! Dilute!!!

I'm not going to lambast you, and instead, I'll just say that you should reflect and use this as a learning experience. Grow as a person when you make mistakes.

Peppermint on the booty, Dr Bronner's can't go wrong.

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I know I’m trying to get my act together and my age excuses nothing. But tbh I didn’t think it was a such a big deal since she didn’t care. Your probably right though and I’ll apologize. I guess I don’t care because my family told me i did nothing wrong and she should’ve gave the kid up for adoption anyways. I don’t really know how Reddit works I just wanted to share the experience. Thanks for telling me your opinion I really needed this lol.

Yes… today you fucked up. I’m not going to be another Redditor on this thread to give you shit for it because if you’re here I think you already know you’re wrong.

Wow aggressive much?

WTF, how are you coming across the same way in the retelling as you do during the incident? I've got a permanently disabled kid, and you can't possibly fathom the heartache and loss that someone in this position is going through.

The reason she is even reaching out to you is likely because she is trying to maintain a social life and personality of her own because being a parent of a child with needs takes over your life and erases your identity.

The fact that you thought it would be appropriate to ridicule this kid, and find a way to insult her with your "apartment warming" quip in this post, speaks volumes about you as a person.

You sound like a terrible human being.