Honestly? You spent the whole day preparing stuff for her birthday. Even if you made a mistake and went over your limit, you showed how much you care and imo the least she could do is honor that by giving you a second chance there. And that's assuming this is what happened. Best case would be that she at least considers your story. Personally, she comes off as a little selfish. We weren't there and only heard your story, though. Wishing you the best on clearing things up

It is widely misunderstood, but that doesn’t give you license to use it to justify your own superiority. You call my response a non-thinking reaction, even though what I said was coherent. However, you then use many paragraphs to say that, incorrectly, I implied all addictive things are addictive due to the substance. You reached as far as you could and, surprise, you interpreted it in such a way that makes everyone who did get addicted sound much worse than those who did not. Your responses take some facts and filter them down until they lack any nuance of what the behaviors address in the addict, and finally, argue once again that a drunk person is just the “real” person. I’ll refer to your prior argument then, no doubt something you pulled out of your ass haphazardly; if we haven’t seen alcohol around for a good chunk of human history, then there never would have been any true human behavior before then.

You pretend as if removing inhibition is all alcohol does, you then use that to diagnose why alcoholics are addicted, and are pulling dramatic examples that don’t fit the discussion to bash your way to a perceived win instead of learning anything about yourself. Which… again, if you put yourself around drunk people because it’s fun to see who they truly are, then none of this is surprising so much as it’s just sad.

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Happened to me as well. An ex and I were in an unfamiliar town on vacation. We both ordered the same drink (draft beer) I think someone was trying to drug her and accidentally did mine, or was trying to incapacitate me. I lost vision after one beer and was in the bathroom uncontrollably voiding bowels. I don't remember much else. She had to basically carry me back to the hotel. Scary stuff

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I hope you properly cleaned that shit. Thats how you get dickfelloffitis

Nowhere did I claim alcoholism is not real. Your reply is one of non-thinking, just knee jerk reaction.

There are millions of people who have a problem with alcohol. I never said otherwise. What I said is that the alcohol is not the cause. That’s a totally different thing than what you are attempting to insinuate here.

And I personally contend that “how addiction works” is widely misunderstood. There are people who are quite literally addicted to hand-washing. They do it tens or hundreds of times daily, when there is no rational need to do so. if addiction is always dependent upon a chemically interactive substance that modifies the brain or nervous system, as you seem to be implying here, what substance is involved in hand-washing that makes some people do it hundreds of times daily?

Millions of people are addicted to gambling. Millions of others can buy a lotto ticket today, and forget they have it in their wallet for months. Is Lotto the problem?

Millions of people can’t stop texting. They do it while walking, while driving. Millions of others don’t bother except when needed for business. Is the text app the problem?

The alcohol is not the issue. Else everyone who ever had a beer would be an alcoholic. The real issue is who the person really is, deep down under the mask they wear in public, and how alcohol allows them to get back to that person. Who would not want to be who they really are whenever possible? If de-inhibitor alcohol helps you get there, who in that scenario would not get addicted to it?

You are so wildly misinformed it’s ridiculous. Do not spew your shit to anyone who is addicted to anything and please let them get help from actual professionals. To any real addict, you are DANGEROUS to talk to. You are going to ruin someone’s life by trying to be a know it all with no real credentials to do so. You do not understand the scientific ins and outs of addictions and it shows. I am not qualified to help others either- but the difference is I am out here correcting ppl who are clearly misinformed and who are likely spewing their BS to others. I am only giving my version of the info in order to combat others from providing help when they are not qualified.

My suggestion to anyone reading this all who knows they struggle with addiction: talk to a professional and avoid anyone like this guy like the plague bc they will misinform you and stop you from getting the help you need.

Dude. This happened to me once. Except I half woke up and kind of came to as I was about to have sex with someone. It was fucking awful. I NEVER would have done that, especially with the person it was. After a few minutes of realizing what was happening to me, and escorting them out, I ran to the bar to figure out what the fuck happened but it was already closing time. The next morning I woke up and didn't feel hungover at all. I just felt the worse sense of dread and being violated that I'd ever felt. All my money was gone, my friends had left earlier in the night and I think someone took advantage of seeing me by myself.

I'd like to extend my thoughts and prayers. Most will never understand the pain you've experienced.

Way worse than where I thought it was going. I hope you make a full recovery, and soon. Just wincing over here in sympathy pains.

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A LOT to unpack here. Sorry you got your penis stuck in your toilet, it does sound painful. I hope it heals well. Don't use neosporin, and probably try not to get a boner ( i dont have a penis so idk im also not a dr) um, not sure what else to say because Im still trying to sit w the fact that I willingly read this.

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I mean he doesn't remember what he did so might be pretty bad 😅

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Photoshop some angel wings on, and Xs for his eyes and reply here ya go, lol.

if MY bih is more concerned about reflecting on whether or not to ditch my ass over something like that instead of trying to figure out what caused such erratic behavior then she getting switched up no questions asked.

What's the grade on this route?

It's all good! Really shit at the time & took me a couple months to fully understand it but realised it was never my fault, nor something I really had control over. You were in a similar position from the sounds of it, so don't blame yourself or for any of the fallout that comes from it.

Millions of people don’t have depression so by your subpar logic, depression isn’t a real problem and suicide is just something selfish people do. Which honestly isn’t really a “gotcha” response because your posts read the way one of those people would speak.

And the length of ethyl’s existence is a weird tangential response to the discussion of how addiction works. Substance abuse doesn’t rely on evolutionary response to each individual substance, but I think you know that. It’s just weird false philosophical points that “hint” at an incorrect answer, one that makes you feel very smart over your peers that drink.

Not sure why anyone would want to drink you, hopefully you’ve kept these shitty thoughts in your head while you’re out judging people who drink.