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Fake_William_Shatner t1_j6juonw wrote

>So we pointed to the rake and he thought we were joking.

Yeah, there are probably communication issues between different cultures.

Him; "I no speak primitive analog device."

You; "Just grab it with both of those hands you use on a joystick and move your arms. Nature will take over."

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NoBSforGma t1_j6judxa wrote

No need to get your knickers in a twist. We are just having a discussion here.

No, it wouldn't be. Because this was before the Confederacy was formed. This was just during the time that the southern states were pissed off and TALKING about seceding. And some people felt.... "Well, just go ahead and good riddance."

We are not having any kind of discussion about the Confederacy or slavery or any of that. Yes slavery is abhorrent but there were many people who supported it. Mainly because they didn't know any better.
It was lucrative for many people, not just the southern slave owners but the New England boat captains who brought the slaves from Africa or from the Caribbean. And you have to remember that at that time in history, people did consider Africans to be sub-human and felt that teaching them about Christianity would be good for them. Yes, it was fucked up thinking - but - you cannot look at something that happened in 1860 through today's lens.

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MikiLove OP t1_j6jt0zf wrote

Or can see positives in the review of it versus fully condemning it. Again it is not perfect, but gives a different perspective than traditional American history is taught.

And you're right, a Civil War/Revolution can be morally justifiable given the circumstance. The Hatian or America revolution are examples as those that were justifiable

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NuGundam7 t1_j6jsw8v wrote

I was a contractor doing some controls work on an HVAC system that was onsite in a military base. They used a (relatively) high pressure steam system for the heating loop. The subject came up, and the guy I was with learned it as a machinist in a destroyer, from another old navyman, who might've actually been around long enough ago that it was an important skill to know!

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An_Awesome_Name t1_j6jsozl wrote

That’s the case with basically anything these days too. I work in engineering and watching my company’s promotional and marketing department do their thing, you would think we are all upstanding professionals with a perfectly clean mouth.

That’s what gets recorded and remembered, not my co-worker and I going on about how another department fucked us.

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marmorset OP t1_j6jsi4b wrote

This fight, the Second Battle of Adobe Walls, was considered such a heart-breaking defeat that the Comanche never recovered and didn't put up the same amount of resistance afterward. They'd had such strong faith that they would win and then realized they were completely outmatched.

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hateful_surely_not t1_j6jrcsr wrote

Anyone who supports the 1619 Project is either ignorant or racist. There's just no other way to approve of that complete shambles. "Not perfect" is making a mistake or misinterpretation. "Absolute travesty of journalism" is ignoring pre-publication corrections of fact from historians and even your own publication's fact checker, and then accusing all detractors of racism.

I'm not gonna argue about why the Confederate states seceded; they made pretty clear in their own words that it was mostly (though not exclusively) over slavery and white supremacy. It's just interesting that whether treason is bad depends on which party you find objectionable.

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