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myindependentopinion t1_j7ar1jw wrote

>Now correct me if I’m wrong but I’m under the impression each nation can choose their membership, and most use blood quantum (which is really based on the Dawes rolls) or relation to the Dawes rolls, but they can choose a method that doesn’t relate to the Dawes rolls at all right?

Yes, each US Fed. Recognized Tribe (FRT) can determine their own criteria for tribal membership since 1978 SCOTUS Santa Clara Pueblo v. Martinez landmark case.

Yes, the vast majority (~85%) of the 574 US FRTs use Blood Quantum as 1 of their criteria and most of those use 1/4 BQ of their own tribal blood as a holdover from what used to be the BIA dictated minimum standard.

No, it's not all really based on the Dawes Rolls. There are over 1 thousand different NDN Census Rolls conducted by NDN Agents from 1885 to 1940s when there were mandatory annual NDN censuses taken on NDN rez's.

The Dawes Rolls only concerned the so-called "5 civilized tribes" and is rather well known because of the Allotment Act but not all tribes were allotted. My tribe chose to use a US Govt. roll from 1954 that I am enrolled by that has nothing to do w/Dawes.

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TWiesengrund t1_j7aodg4 wrote

Russian peasants in 1917 really didn't have much choice when it came to "loyalty" to the person that owned them, did they?

Note: I know serfdom was abolished by then for a long time but practical servitude still existed on a massive scale.

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McKFC OP t1_j7anuqf wrote

There was a funny (and a bit racist) mythology built up around Ellwood. Not remotely true, but it gained popularity as explanation for the lack of damage, when there was opportunity to seriously disable critical war infrastructure.

The story goes that, before the war, a man named Kozo Nishino had served on an oil tanker that docked near the refinery. He was invited for a courtesy tour. While strolling around the facilities with the other dignitaries, he noticed a patch of cactuses behind a fence - a type of fauna that was novel to him - so he decided he'd climb the fence to clip a piece to take back home. Well, unfortunately, he slipped on the fence, right onto a large cactus. His yelp drew bellowing laughs from his American hosts, and the embarrassment was a source of great shame to him for many years.

Cut to the war, and Nishino is now commander of a submarine, the I-17. As fate would have it, he was once again docked near that oil field. The instructions came in to pick a target for what would be the first attack on the continental United States. Commander Nishino knew what he had to do. He ordered his submarine to Ellwood, weapons armed, and instructed his men, "Aim at that cactus!"

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