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StrikeMePurple t1_j85dh2a wrote

I don't think they are disagreeing, more pointing out how quickly some Redditors jump on the left wing right wing thing.

It's something pretty well ingrained in American culture nowadays and a lot of us around the world find it pretty disgusting and cheap to blame every problem on the opposite ideology you believe.

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EdibleBatteries t1_j85bxxs wrote

Such black and white thinking, assuming everything is a shade of gray. The ā€œboth-sidesā€ism is toxic and effectively advocates apathy and anarchy as reasonable solutions, which is silly, and legitimizes propaganda that sets the goalposts to where this ā€œmiddleā€ is supposed to be.

Edit: this post just made its way to r/bestof

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Skinnie_ginger t1_j85ac5l wrote

Personally I identify as a moderate, which is why I disagree. The answer to every problem in society does not lie on one side of the political binary we’ve created. To say ā€œthis is what happens when right wing ideology winsā€ is such a hilariously wrong and oversimplified statement and a very stereotypically Reddit thing to say. Sometimes right wing policy works and sometimes left wing policy works, that’s government. But one side isn’t evil and society destroying and the other side isn’t sunshine and rainbows. Both have inherent flaws and strengths.

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Kimbo_94 t1_j853og7 wrote

Yeh i can believe that is statistically true, but personally I think moderate right-center parties are almost equally good as most Centre-left parties, but I also believe that far-left governments are usually better than far radical-right parties are a lot worse. These are just my personal opinions though.

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Xydraus t1_j8529fh wrote

That says richest people, but that doesn't say the country as the whole was one of the wealthiest - and given everything I've been reading about their low population I have a hard time imagining the nation itself had a comparable economy to major nations in the late 1960s.

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Xydraus t1_j850tjc wrote

That says GDP per capita, right? That's insanely different from being one of the wealthiest nations if your population is pretty low.

As a hypothetical with made up numbers, if your GDP is only ten million dollars, you'd be one of the poorest nations in the world, but if you've also only got ten people, then your GDP per capita would actually be the highest.

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LevelPerception4 t1_j84zaq5 wrote

Murphy Brown (name of the TV show as well as the character Bergen played) was very popular in 1992. It got some extra media coverage when then-Vice President Dan Quayle made a speech criticizing the show for Bergen’s character becoming a single mother. About a month later, Quayle was judging a spelling bee, and prompted a kid to spell potato ā€œpotatoe.ā€

To me as a perpetually stoned college student, Quayle was hilarious, and I thought he was a major factor in Clinton’s victory. But then the country elected Dubya twice, and then Trump, so now it just seems like a depressing incident where the country dodged a bullet. I’m sorry GenZ didn’t at least get to experience the brief illusion that there are people so dumb, US voters won’t elect them.

Although it’s never good to be overly cynical. I voted for Obama in 2008 thinking there was no chance he’d win. I thought John Edwards had the best chance. Must’ve been the hair. It was humbling to be wrong about US voters not electing a black President, but it also lulled me into a false sense of security in 2016. I’m not sure Republicans really wanted to win in 2008. It’s been the pattern throughout my life that Republicans gain office, destroy the economy, and then ensure the Democrat elected to fix it gets no credit for doing it.

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ObjectiveTraffic7050 t1_j84unre wrote

Isn't a common feature of right-wing economics to support a country opening it's resource extraction industries to foreign investment, under the theory that doing so will raise the living standards of its people who wouldnt otherwise be able to profit from their own resources due to lacking the wealth needed to do it themselves?

I'm not blaming the "right wing" for this by the way: back in 1967 I'm sure only a few losers who were jealous of others' wealth were suggesting that too much mining, too fast, could permanently damage the island's economy. We know better now.

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