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draculthemad t1_jadey6w wrote

The people actually responsible for health and safety needed someone convenient to blame, other than their own failures.

If thousands of soldiers are getting sick from a tick-borne disease, someone has to answer uncomfortable questions about why they are surrounded by rats.

Much easier to blame evil scientists for sabotage.

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GenXer3383 t1_jaderb7 wrote

Laws were restrictive in freeing slaves at the time. Jefferson also believed in educating and training slaves so they were no illiterate and unskilled citizens destined to be desititue for life with little or no resources to build a life for themselves. Presumably, he lacked the resources to pursue his political career (including trying to end slavery), maintain his family and estate, and properly prepare more slaves to be freemen.

In the end, his efforts to curb slavery socially and politically didn't bear great fruit, though slavery was shrinking until the industrial revolution made slave labor more economically viable. Perhaps Jefferson would be looked upon more kindly if he had a time machine, knew his policies wouldn't end slavery, and had the foresight to free a greater amount of his own slaves. (Though again, pro-slavery politicians and landholders made freeing large numbers of slaves very difficult with laws and policies they successfully put in place.)

For people to just spew "hur dur, Jefferson had slaves" when he couldn't just wave his had and free all his slaves to live happy and productive lives is lazy and smears the legacy of a great leader in our history.

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nathing1 t1_jadekgh wrote

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Tuckaho-Joe t1_jaddgtf wrote

I wonder is this that satiation you speak of: The Story of Valmiki “For his whole life, the thief had only said harsh and unkind words. So, try as he might, he could not utter the word “Rama”. But Narada was too kind to leave him. So he tried another method. He slowly said the word “Mara”, which means ‘death’. This time the robber was very happy to say the word! He really liked it! He began saying it, over and over again. “Mara, Mara, Mara, Mara. And he started repeating the syllables in quick succession. . . “Mara, Mara, Ma-Ra, Ma-Ra, Ma, Ra, Ma, Ra, Ma, Ra-Ma, Ra-Ma, Rama, Rama.

Without realising it, the robber was repeating the holy name of Lord Rama. He was captivated by the charm of the sacred name and he went on repeating the name, forgetful of where he was. He sat like that for ages, without moving and without opening his eyes. Years passed away. Seeing him sitting like an immovable stone, ants, worms and insects crawled fearlessly near him. They built their homes and nests on his body. The anthills grew and grew until they covered him completely. This long penance washed away all the robber’s sins”

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XIphos12 t1_jadct81 wrote

So level with me then: these people are ignorant by stating a simple fact about him. This frustrates you because it doesn't complete the picture. Yet I have to ask, if Jefferson "was at the forefront" as you say, why did he not start with his own slaves? If you're going to expect something from others, you should probably make it your own practice. In my mind, that makes him one of two things in regards to the abolition of slavery: foolish or insincere. We can't pretend he had no influence in Revolutionary America, and we can't we pretend he practiced what he preached. Honestly if he had started with his own (more than just 2 of his 600), it may have gone a long way. Yet speculation is just speculation and the facts remain: Jefferson owned slaves and used them. He freed a handful (including those freed before and after he died), and the rest were sold after his death to pay off his substantial debt.

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SterlingArcherTrois t1_jadbsgy wrote

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