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boyyouguysaredumb t1_jaq8q5g wrote

No they just don’t know the origin of the phrase

It’s like how people think trickle down economics was a term Reagan invented. It was a term his opponents branded his stupid plans, it was never the name of the actual policy- it was always just a term to make fun of it.

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96_doomer t1_jaq6nj1 wrote

I think understand ur and their perspectives.

I'll try to explain in simple way, cause else it might be too long explanation.

I see it as two modes, one is ur mode, or as I call it, the win mode or like feeling motivated, but lasting longer than just very short bursts. In the win mode, I think like u, there is no such thing as luck, we take action, we get results, don't wait for help, we do ourselves etc. In this mode, we believe and feel we can achieve almost anything, u face obstacle, u try to find solution for it. This mode usually feels real good and happy, and Ur mind feels good and u can see clearly. If I haven't experienced this mode myself, whatever u said would have made almost no sense to me because it sounds foreign.

Then there is the other mode, I call it the doomer mode, or u can call it depression ,mental illness whatever u want. This seems to be the default and longer lasting mode than win mode, which is usually temporary.

I'm not sure if u have ever experienced it, but it ain't a good feeling. U don't have much hope or hope at all. U can't think clearly, its kinda like trying to drive in foggy road. U don't believe u can Change anything, like genuinely we don't think we can do much, as it all feels like external factors affecting us. Think of a really low moment in ur life, like where u felt u couldn't do anything. Its kinda something like that maybe, but slightly less but on a usually constant feel like cruise control. U attempt to do something, and even one tiny set back, can make u feel even more bad and very overwhelming. In this mode, it ain't like the win mode at all, like even though I know what win mode feels like, when u reach the doomer mode, u feel like there no hope at all again, even though u experienced win mode before. U feel like u will fail, u only see chances to fail more, imagine walking a rope on a high place, if u fall u die, but now kinda apply it for general life plan or some things. Maybe a bit exaggerated but to help get u the idea, here u can't think of failure, because it can feel like a very big failure, and not something that u can handle, like how it would be in win mode.

I'm not sure how I can explain doomer mode to someone who may have not experienced it, or only for short while. But let's say, imagine u had a nasty fight with a loved one. And they somehow immediately passed away. Now u have deep regret that they passed away in such a bad time when u both were angry at each other and u couldn't ask for their forgiveness. Like truly take yourself to that moment. Ur very sad, u wanna apologize to them one last time but u literally can't, there's is literally nothing u can do, they are gone permanently. Now imagine at that time someone comes and tells u, yo, don't be such a downer, this happens, u gotta just move on, or something like, u can bring them back to life man, its easy, just do some science whatever and they will be back to life And just apologize, easy peasy, ur just being a wimp. I know I'm using some absurd example, but to a a person in that stage, whatever u say, even though with good intent, may sound like nonsense talks when they literally see no hope of realistically bringing them back to life and apologizing, to them, it sounds like ur just downplaying their troubles and just telling to get on with it, which can be hard to imagine in that stage. But from the win mode guys perspective, they are also imagining the other person to be in win mode, and the only way a win mode sitting still is because he is choosing it as choice, so in win mode. We feel others are not doing something because they lazy and just don't wanna take action. So this conflict of communication arises as both people are kinda like in different modes and they assume the other person Also in their own mode, because that's what they feel is what everyone maybe feeling like. I guess a very dumb example might be. There are two blind people. One strong and big, other thin and weak. Strong blind says, hey man, just want food, just lift this rock, and weak guy can't lift rock and strong guy gets angry at weak guy. Cause he can't see weak guy is weak cause he blind. Then they reach an obstacle, then somehow thin weak guy find a gap and reach other side. Strong big guy tries but can't, cause he too big, then weak guy gets angry at big guy, for not just fitting through the gap cause its easy, but he can't see the guy is big cause he blind.

I don't know if I explained it properly, but I hope u get it.

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96_doomer t1_jaq4rsq wrote

As someone who ain't successful or whatever, I believe the third might be, evaluating a problem and finding a logical solution to it, keep changing tactics and angles until u find a solution. Luck is also a factor, true, but we can't just sit around doing nothing cause only luck matters.

Again, I'm. Not saying this as though a successful person, quite far from it I Believe, but in my small experiences, we usually don't take action due to many factors such as fear and all, but blaming it fully on luck is one of em I feel.

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SCWarriors44 t1_japv1c7 wrote

Literally everything in my life. I am responsible for every single one of my actions and reactions and only me. Every choice I make is mine and everything I do is because I wanted it done. It’s a frighteningly scary world for you if you can’t make any decisions yourself or take responsibility for any of your actions.

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SCWarriors44 t1_japuooq wrote

Then be so kind to explain what exactly I missed. Because I don’t see any scenario in which picking yourself up in any shitty situation isn’t the one thing that will help you move forward more than any other.

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SCWarriors44 t1_japuidw wrote

So what? That exists. Most of us are fighting for scraps. To you does that mean we just give up? Or rely on others to clean up the mess or make it better? That exact situation is one you pull yourself up and find a way to make it better for you and your loved ones. You can blame those people all day but it ain’t gonna get you anywhere and ain’t gonna fix anything. So stand up and push through. That’s why you only help others who want to help themselves.

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SCWarriors44 t1_japtwc9 wrote

What you do in response to all those shitty things is your responsibility and yours only. You don’t sit and whine. You don’t cry. You don’t complain. You pull yourself up and make that shitty situation better for yourself and those you love. Lost your job? Go get a new one or start your own. Got sick? Fight through it and get better, it sucks but complaining or relying on others ain’t getting you anywhere. Generational racial barriers or whatever nonsense, the second you stand up for yourself and fight for yourself, you’ll find that none of that actually exists or matters.

Not a single soul besides leaches benefit from society. The fact that you don’t even know any self made men or women is really sad to me, because that’s exactly what society needs more of.

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