Not to mention EVERYTHING was always top dollar also

Pretty sure Spencer’s has two locations.

Well they put Andrew Jackson on bills

we have a medium sized mall and ours is designed that way too. the corridors of the malls are either dead ends or exits to different parking lots. its also confusing if you try to double back because you are not sure if you came in from the left or the right of the mall.

we had something similar in the west, we have 2 elevators going up, but the going down elevators was on the opposite side of the where the up elevators, of making you go through the FOOD court, because everyone cant help themselves to food once in a while.

thanks i hate it capitalism

Hey is that southdale mall in minnesota???

Gruen may finally be getting the last laugh, as dying malls are starting to be rebuilt to be more like his original vision. They're getting converted into schools, health centers and malls in big cities are often becoming mixed use developments with shops on the ground floors and offices, hotels and housing on top.

If you choose to steal something rather than pay for it with your own money, even though you don't need to, is that choice something you'd be able to justify? Is that a freedom you should be allowed to exercise even though it harms greater society?

I'm not choosing it because it's harmful, and if you keep objectivity you can see how it's unfair to judge so harshly on preference alone.

I could think up some selfless reasons but the fact remains I shouldn't have to. I shouldn't need to justify a freedom to have it. You should understand the ability to choose is worth defending in itself, even if you wouldn't make the same choice.

Selfish is dictating your preference is the only acceptable one.

This is exactly why I stopped using malls. It was fun with my shitty group of hs friends. Now it’s just depressing haha.

"I refuse to pay alimony for those bastard developments." - Gruen

What a gangster.

Is this related Costco constantly changing the location of items and the grocery store resetting the isles every so often?

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I recently read a novel about a haunted IKEA (Horrorstör by Grady Hendrix), and it played with this idea, that it's somewhere you're meant to get lost in and can seem to be built not quite right.

Sorta reminds me when I’d play roller coaster tycoon and trap the guests in the park lol

How is this allowed with regards to fire safety/other emergencies? You figure it would be mandated that exits can be found easily.

This gives credence to the idea that historically, women are gatherers and men are hunters (but also enjoy exploring).

Jokes on them, I lose track of time and geography everywhere !

This is where you and I part ways. I don't agree with everything vegans say/do, but I'm 100% behind making food consumption sustainable and as low-impact on the planet as possible.

If the end product of that method is indistinguishable from the method that is objectively bad for the planet, I can't understand or agree with choosing the worse one, simply because you feel your "preference" has been taken away.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but it sounds incredibly selfish and short-sighted when you're effectively losing nothing except the choice to choose the harmful method.

There doesn't have to be. This is what I mean, preference is what matters, since even the facts mattering is a matter of preference.

If vegans could be catered to simply because of their feelings, like they were for the longest time and will be until the great greenhouse benefit kicks in, I should be as well, no practical benefit required.

Hey, the mall by my house is in there several times.

Haha interesting comparison. Honestly, if I was unaware of the means and the results were indistinguishable, I wouldn't care. Even if I was aware, it feels like a pretty low psychological hurdle to get over. Even more so if extracting spring water was fucking the planet up.

Is there any benefit to distilling the public's piss though? In the same way that there's a benefit to removing the enormous amount greenhouse gas emission that livestock farming produces?

Norman doors! They're doors designed in such a way that you can't immediately tell if you need to push or pull. Named after designer Don Norman, who denounced them as bad design.